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Why I’m not attending any pity parties for furloughed federal workers
American Thinker ^ | 01/21/2019 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 01/21/2019 6:45:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: cpdiii
The non essential workers loved these shutdowns.

They get to take an extended Christmas vacay. So big whoop.

61 posted on 01/21/2019 9:18:53 AM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: blueunicorn6

they see us as second class citizens. I hope they have to go to work where you produce a result or get canned. I’m so aggravated every time I pay a bill now, at the top is “if you’re a furloughed fed worker, we’ll work with you on your payments” It makes me want to puke. If I was off a month and had no cash, the note I would get is “Pay your bill”!


62 posted on 01/21/2019 9:20:00 AM PST by allwrong57
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To: SeekAndFind

Welcome to the party, folks!

Its a bitch being thrown down here with the rest of us , aint it?


63 posted on 01/21/2019 9:30:29 AM PST by Delta 21
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To: SeekAndFind

during obama’s term, seniors, disabled and veterans were denied Cost of Living Increases, while everyone in government, who make 10’s of 1000’s more than these groups of folks, got their cost of living increases every single year- As well, prices under obama rose significantly for practically everything- Gas prices were ridiculous- things like breads, cereals, etc rose dramatically- yet apparently there was ‘no cost of living increases’ for several years under obama’s term- Federal employees can’t have a double martini for their lunch for a few weeks? Cry me a river


64 posted on 01/21/2019 9:50:00 AM PST by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind

“Why I’m not attending any pity parties for furloughed federal workers” = Ditto!

Worked for the government; been there, done that....not feeling their pain, at all.


65 posted on 01/21/2019 9:54:07 AM PST by cranked
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To: Eddie01

You realize one doesn’t cancel out the other?

I know it’s chic on FR to assume that everyone in the employ of any level of government is a scumsucking loser, but there are actually some good people trying to work and provide for their families. This lack of a paycheck due to Dems playing games against Trump is causing genuine hardship in places.

Have just a little bit of empathy, even if it hurts. If you feel so strongly about also wanting prayer for the victims of illegals, then you should bring it up with your pastor.


66 posted on 01/21/2019 9:56:06 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Plans are worthless, but planning is everything. - Dwight Eisenhower, 1957)
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To: SeekAndFind

About half of the furloughed federal employees, such as Air Traffic Controllers, are working with deferred compensation. Deferred compensation is an excellent expression, one we should all be using.


67 posted on 01/21/2019 10:07:20 AM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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To: PrincessB

Agencies have discretion in setting hours of work, schedules etc. so long as hey comply with employment law. Lot of agencies now use flextime, remote work sites etc. just as in the private sector.


68 posted on 01/21/2019 11:49:59 AM PST by yetidog
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To: SeekAndFind
Call me a hard-hearted, mean-spirited conservative

Okay, your a hard-hearted, mean-spirited asshole

signed,

A slave of the state, working for free.

69 posted on 01/21/2019 1:23:35 PM PST by hattend
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To: SeekAndFind

I worked for local gov’t for my entire career. The chances of being furloughed for 5 to 14 days were about 20%/year.

The chances of being laid off at some point due to downsizing was much lower, but still foreseeable as a possibility. We were a single income family of four, in a high cost of living state, so my risk factor was about the same as a Federal Worker. That’s why I always had an emergency fund of $50K or more on hand, savings plus credit limit.

When I retired I had to go for 4 months without any income before getting a retroactive pension payment. Didn’t have to break a sweat because I had my emergency fund to tap.

The only thing this shutdown reveals is that we have grasshoppers running our government, not ants.


70 posted on 01/21/2019 2:35:41 PM PST by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: All

I am married to a furloughed federal employee. He wants the wall built. He is a conservative and we do not live in DC. He has been told he is forbidden to go to his office or contact any colleague during the shutdown.

He is a responsible former Yankee who is in the next to top tier of the chart at the top of this thread, meaning he makes less than comparable in private sector, so don’t cast aspersions my way.

Our health insurance benefits are deplorable.... File a claim and it is denied, thrown away, sent to another city , “we never got it”, or paid out after 11 months. So truly it is not all butterflies and rainbows his being a Fed employee.

He has a law degree, is a white male and believes that public service is a good and noble thing.

I believe in the private sector and capitalism and so things work out just fine.


71 posted on 01/21/2019 3:09:23 PM PST by TheTexasMom (Q is my homie)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Meanwhile, no media empathy or coverage at all of the 40% or so of businesses destroyed and employees out of work in Panama City FL in the aftermath of October’s Hurricane Michael.


72 posted on 01/21/2019 3:36:08 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Sacajaweau
Who cries for them?

Nobody in DC that's for sure.

73 posted on 01/21/2019 3:41:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Eddie01

Why I gave up on “church” a log time ago.


74 posted on 01/21/2019 3:42:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Delta 21

Can’t the FedGov workers retrain to be software engineers or doctors? That is what the rest of America was told during the off shoring craze.


75 posted on 01/21/2019 3:49:21 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Future Snake Eater
This lack of a paycheck due to Dems playing games against Trump is causing genuine hardship in places.

Sorry F them. They're almost ALL democrats.

76 posted on 01/21/2019 3:50:47 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SeekAndFind

Most of what you wrote is an outright lie.

The situation is not at *all* as you describe.


77 posted on 01/21/2019 4:21:03 PM PST by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: sauropod

We are all eager to read your take on the truth then. Feel free to counter the author of this article.


78 posted on 01/21/2019 4:34:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m countering what *you* wrote.

I’ve personally known three govvies fired and it did not require “four” agencies to do so.

The “on average” canard relies on the general innumeracy of the public. While it is true that lower paid employees make more than their private counterparts, it is *not* true that white collar professionals are paid more. In fact, they are paid significantly less.


79 posted on 01/21/2019 5:13:08 PM PST by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: sauropod

I just copied and pasted what the article said. The article said thusly:

” In some cases, it takes the effort from four different agencies to fire federal employees, and the process often takes years, even in simple cases. “

NOTE: It says IN SOME CASES ( not ALL CASES ).

And this is their source:

https://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/commentary/firing-bad-federal-employee-may-get-little-easier

Which in turn sourced their information from here:

https://www.rstreet.org/2015/05/15/it-really-is-nearly-impossible-to-fire-a-federal-employee/


80 posted on 01/21/2019 5:40:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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