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To: LouieFisk
Ayn Rand spoke out against Communism that makes people forcibly dependent upon the State.

She ended up dependent upon the State.

No conflict here. Will somebody please state the conflict?

It is the same dumb argument if a person speaks out against Big Gov’t, and they also take Social Security, then they should also be further humiliated by robbing him further.

The socialist accusers just wish to steal even more of that person's money. Socialists have no bound for their theft.

The libertarian just acknowledges dependency is bad. He also, in a rate moment of keenness, will estimate how much money the State actually stole from him.

Something a socialist could never calculate in their broad ignorance. Something even most astute Freepers could also nether do.

19 posted on 01/16/2019 4:51:18 AM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: TheNext
"It is the same dumb argument if a person speaks out against Big Gov’t, and they also take Social Security"

Social Security was FORCED upon my paycheck my entire working career. I am not now nor was I ever a fan of Social Security as it is simply nothing more than government ownership of the elderly. It needs to be ended. Ending it would take sacrifices from those currently receiving it, those who are stuck expecting it, and those who would have to give up the idea of ever receiving it. This is a multi-generational problem with a multi-generational solution.

I have a workable solution. All three parties above sacrifice something but in the end the program disappears from the face of the earth. Tell me your approximate age and I will tell you what your sacrifice is. The major burden facing Social Security is the retiring baby boomer generation. They have to be dealt with in a fashion that they can buy into. They have already sacrificed their entire working lives having to pay into a system that bought the votes of their parents and grandparents.

20 posted on 01/16/2019 6:43:04 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: TheNext

“It is the same dumb argument”

I’m not making an argument, just made an observation. A person who spends their life advocating against something and then rejects his own position as not applying to himself is gonna have problems. That’s just the way things go.

But as we both seem to agree - everyone is a hypocrite to one degree or another. This is one reason why I’m not into guru-following or hero-worship.

As Dylan (a guy who made millions singing about the poor) once said:
‘Don’t follow leaders, watch the parking meters’


22 posted on 01/16/2019 8:08:21 AM PST by LouieFisk
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