The world has seen such behaviors, and not only in the special states of California and Florida.
Posted on 01/12/2019 5:51:05 PM PST by Mariner
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“How does a guy make it to 48 and hold down various jobs all while being a paranoid schiz? Is that probable?”
‘Probable’ doesn’t matter, it’s ‘possible’ that counts. And it is possible.
The prodromal stage can last for several years, a long period of gradual deterioration where he is able to function well enough to hold a job and live what passes for a normal life.
The symptoms wouldn’t be pronounced enough for those who know him at work to think that he is anything other than eccentric or a loner. These are ‘negative symptoms’ such as depression, anxiety, social isolation.
If he continues to deteriorate he gets first-rank symptoms, ‘positive symptoms’ of the disease- such as delusional thoughts like his brain being bombarded by ultrasonic waves. He apparently was at this stage for at least a year.
None of this requires anything other than the normal organic progression of schizophrenia, despite your eagerness to connect it with marijuana use when you have no evidence that he ever smoked as much as one joint in his life.
“Wow. One would expect them to tell everyone about their habit and be honest about it.”
Kevin Limbaugh had a roommate who I suspect is more familiar with what Limbaugh’s everyday life was like than, say, you.
And while the roommate mentioned Kevin having “deep anger issues” and “feeling trapped” he doesn’t mention pot use or alcohol use at all. And considering that marijuana use isn’t illegal there is no reason for that roommate to hide it.
What evidence do you have that Limbaugh’s killing spree was pot driven? Well at this point it’s the same as what you have for him having smoked pot at all - none.
You’ll eat crow on this sooner or later.
I’ll make it more clear for you this time. Many of us have been bothered by long term potheads in person, and their behavior is getting tiresome. We know that they are addicted to marijuana. They preach to advocate their favorite drug as though they were preaching a religion. They put their delusions of persecution on display. They eventually threaten others often because of those delusions and their increasing poor temperament. We know that they lie to their psychologists and psychiatrists, the lies resulting in more drugs being prescribed and their behavior being reinforced by ignorant or crooked shrinks. We know that they lie compulsively.
Birds of a feather flock together. Suspicions of lack of credibility in such cases are developed from human experiences and learning. It’s part of human nature and won’t be shouted down for any appreciable duration.
” Many of us have been bothered by long term potheads in person, and their behavior is getting tiresome.”
So that is supposed to justify you introducing the idea that Kevin Limbaugh was affected by marijuana when there is zero evidence that he ever used it?
That’s an interesting line of argument. Having sat on a number of juries I suspect that it would last about 10 seconds during deliberation.
I was in high school in southern California in the late 1960s. There isn’t a drug that I didn’t see. There isn’t a form of annoying pothead behavior that I didn’t witness personally.
The difference is, unlike you, I expect small stuff like actual evidence before I go around claiming that pot is responsible for someone’s psychotic behavior when there is no evidence for it.
You’re engaged in special pleading when you make an argument based upon nothing more than potheads are tiresome.
People can and do go crazy because their brain chemistry betrays them. At this point there is no evidence that Kevin Limbaugh’s delusions about ultrasonic waves were anything other than that.
There’s going to be a backlash against “herb” anyway, so you may as well get accustomed to it.
Bizarre murder committed by psychotic maniac? “Florida.” Before that, it was “California” in conversations between people in more conservative states. It’s just another way of saying, “Drugs.” Eventually, people wake up to why the more bizarre incidents are occurring with greater frequency.
Road rage? Pot. Bum fight between neighbors spouting nonsense at each other? Pot. Opioid overdoses? They started with pot. Everyone who is clean already knows that. Domestic disturbance? Pot, and it makes them drink more. Antics of meth addicts? Started with pot. Young folks covered with intentionally ugly grooming accessories and marks? Pot. Increasing numbers of kids who are abnormally hyperactive and inattentive? The obvious answer: their parents and...well, you know.
It will continue to get worse. We’ll see more incidents involving zombies every year, until America puts a stop to it.
Have fun in your logic optional universe.
Somebody in Davis CA had THC in their blood?
Is that what caused them to murder a cop?
Does it do that to everyone?
Thank you for your very predictable, tone-deaf response. Two and a half months ago, you were skeptical of my assertion that the perp was using marijuana. Now that my assertion has been proven correct, you brush it off. Does tobacco smoking give lung cancer to everyone who does it? No. Actually only a small percentage of those who have ever smoked tobacco cigarettes will be diagnosed with lung cancer. But for those smokers who do get lung cancer, smoking was usually the cause. The situation is analogous with cannabis and mental health... Do most pot users become psychotic? No. Do a small percentage? Yes. Was the psychosis of that small percentage caused by cannabis? Usually. There is overwhelming clinical evidence of pot users with zero history of psychosis becoming psychotic after becoming regular users of the drug.
“Two and a half months ago, you were skeptical of my assertion that the perp was using marijuana. “
No, I was skeptical of your allusions to marijuana being the cause of the murder.
“There is overwhelming clinical evidence of pot users with zero history of psychosis becoming psychotic after becoming regular users of the drug”.
Approximately 20% of the American population reports seeing or hearing things that are not really there in their lifetime. Those are the people who should never, ever smoke pot.
They’re already at least half way there.
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