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To: DoodleDawg

Or you might just provide the tariff rates to prove your point.****

You challenged me to provide a source. I did.


The war measures part. The constitutional definition of a 10% tariff part. I provided the Confederate tariff bill outlining 25% tariffs and 20% tariffs and 15% tariffs and nowhere identifying those as a war measure. All you have offered is your own unsupported claim.****

False. I provided quote after quote after quote from numerous sources saying 10% was the maximum - before the government assumed emergency powers during the war.


So? Where does it say that any tariff about 10% is protective?*****

In numerous quotes I provided you. 10% was the common definition of the maximum for a revenue tariff.


I notice it was written two months before the Confederate Congress passed their tariff laws. So I guess they showed the newspaper to be wrong, didn’t they? Maybe they hadn’t read that editorial down in Richmond?****

I provided several sources which said this. Higher tariffs were an emergency power assumed due to the war.


A label that nobody would ever apply to you.****

Nah, it is you who is consistently dishonest here.


But what say you to this quote?

“I have no idea that the duties will be as low as 10 per cent. My own opinion is that we shall have as high duty as is now charged by the General Government at Washington. If that matter is regarded as important by this Convention, why the door is open for negotiation with us. We have but a provisional and temporary government so far. If it be found that Virginia requires more protection than this upon any particular article of manufacture let her come in the spirit of a sister, to our Congress and say, we want more protection upon this or that article, and she will, I have no doubt, receive it. She will be met in the most fraternal and complying spirit.” That was a promise made by one of the secession commissioners to the Virginia secession convention.*****

Yet in the Confederate Constitution they specified that only a tariff for revenue was to be allowed and not a protective tariff. It seems the commissioner at this one convention spoke out of turn.


I’ve read a lot on the period. Had you read anything at all you would be able to answer my questions. You can’t. Not at all surprising.****

Oh but I have you see and you’re being dishonest in denying it. Not at all surprising.


551 posted on 01/17/2019 6:17:42 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird
You challenged me to provide a source. I did.

I provide you with information and you provide opinions.

False. I provided quote after quote after quote from numerous sources saying 10% was the maximum - before the government assumed emergency powers during the war.

Quote after quote after quote from Northern editorials. Nothing from Confederate sources saying tariffs would be 10% and no more.

In numerous quotes I provided you. 10% was the common definition of the maximum for a revenue tariff.

Again, you provided nothing from the Confederate government defining 10% as the maximum tariff or no legal opinion that 10% defined a revenue tariff.

I provided several sources which said this. Higher tariffs were an emergency power assumed due to the war.

Can you point me to your source from the Confederate government defining those higher tariffs as war measures? The legislation itself doesn't do that.

Yet in the Confederate Constitution they specified that only a tariff for revenue was to be allowed and not a protective tariff. It seems the commissioner at this one convention spoke out of turn.

And according to you they promptly ignored it. Do you imagine that the higher tariff might have been struck down by the Confederate Supreme Court? If Davis and the Confederate Congress hadn't also ignored the requirement to establish that branch of government as well?

Oh but I have you see...

Not so much, no.

554 posted on 01/18/2019 6:22:38 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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