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To: Redmen4ever

“I will answer that question when you say what was or were the causes of Florida seceding and provide references if possible.”

I’m not sure what one has to do with the other. It does seem the goal posts are moving.

You earlier asked if I could provide a citation of the Florida ordinance of secession. I did.

Now you want me to explain the causes of Florida seceding.

O.K. In simple terms, it was the northern love of money and associated evils.


166 posted on 01/12/2019 8:17:44 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem

Yes, we seem to have gone astray. This thread is about fixing a misstatement on a plaque in Texas concerning why that state seceded. You are the person who brought in Florida. I said Texas stated itself that the reason it seceded was slavery. I said others states did so as well, and yet other states were not explicit. Then, you brought up Florida, conceding the point about Texas as well as some other states.

I see you consider yourself to the arbiter of Florida’s history. I can read. I did read the source that you referred to me of Florida. It did not give a reason. So, you stated the reason.

According to your source (you), the reason Florida seceded was the evil Yankee system of finance. This aligns with Slave mentality, no different from the socialists and progressives of the past. The north (and England), capitalism and the Jewish system was based on “wage-slavery.” Slavery treated inferior people humanely because they would be hopeless if left on their own. If the wage slaves of the north had any sense, they’d make their way to the south so they could become happy slaves. Indeed, Woodrow Wilson was a Southerner, a eugenicist, a racist and a progressive, sympathetic to the Klan and to the Lost Cause. In contrast to blacks, Jews were hated, as best as I can tell, not because they were inferior, but because they were superior. Today, things are flipped. The racists of today hate whites while condemning the capitalist system. Of course, they still hate the Jews and, I suspect, will soon start hating the Asians. People like you are left isolated.

Yes, I am a baby boomer and from the north. My grandparents were immigrants. My father and my uncles fought for this country and what it stands for, and against the countries of their ancestry. I, in my generation, and my son in his have joined in the defense of this great nation. I have relatives drawn from all the inhabited continents save Australia, and two cousins who have moved there.

When I was a child, I was put-off by the line “land where my fathers died,” in America the Beautiful. I had no fathers who died here. Today, that line resonates with me. Although there is a logic to what this country stands for, the emotional tie that accrues over the passing of generations should not be overlooked. One can be wary about immigration without being racist. We are a nation and a democracy, and for these things to work, we must have a shared vision and the vast majority of us must be in the middle class. Slavery, segregation and excessive numbers of poor and unassimilated immigrants are antithetical to us being a country of freedom and equality. Today, the progressive left threaten our country, or maybe I should say my country. Hopefully, when I am as old as you I won’t have to think of my vision of America as a Lost Cause.


173 posted on 01/12/2019 9:30:25 AM PST by Redmen4ever (u)
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