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To: vannrox

The European immigrants came to a largely unpopulated continent and claimed it, lost by the tribes in constant warfare among themselves, and with many of those tribes dedicated to hideously brutal practices.

The Europeans were more civilized, more organized, more united, and more numerous. That, and the more advanced technology that naturally accompanied being more civilized, more organized, more united, and more numerous, made the outcome inevitable.

There are things I have always admired about Tribal American culture, but their civilization overall was in decadent disarray; their more advanced tribes were already a thing of the past.

Note that I call them Tribal Americans, not Native Americans. I am a Native American, but not a Tribal American (although my father had a Tribal American forebear, and I am even more Tribal American than Elizabeth Warren).

I do not object to the term, Native American Tribe(s), but I vehemently object to the term, Native American(s), unless it is applied to all Americans who happen to be natives.


29 posted on 01/10/2019 12:53:52 AM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: YogicCowboy

Ok,

So if the place was uninhabited, how long did the pilgrims at Plymouth Rock go before encountering indigenous established tribes?

I’ll give you a hint

Pilgrims landed in fall, but it was the natives that prevented them from starving to death in the first month of shorefall.

Please read more American history.

Rush Revere even talks about this.


35 posted on 01/10/2019 1:04:50 AM PST by pacificus
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To: YogicCowboy

Yes, you have very good points. I agree with you, however I would not be able to match your ability to say things so clearly and plainly.


38 posted on 01/10/2019 1:09:29 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: YogicCowboy
I do not object to the term, Native American Tribe(s), but I vehemently object to the term, Native American(s), unless it is applied to all Americans who happen to be natives.

I use the term "Native American" for c!arity. The term "Indian" is so utterly wring that I avoid using it. The wrongness of that word became especially clear when I visited Fiji, where there is a large Indian population, and an Indian asked me about my dreamcatcher earrings. There was no way I could explain them to an Indian and use the word "Indian" to describe Native Americans.

The problem with what to call them will persist for the time being, I suppose. All of my ancestors have been here since the 1600s, which makes me a native, too.

68 posted on 01/10/2019 4:03:17 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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