Your right I left NYS in 1980..
Moved to Colorado and the Californians moved in and ruined it..
Moved to Florida in 2001 and there doing that here...
It is hopeless...there will be few red states in twenty years...
Come to NC we need more Pubbies here!
I left upper NYS in 82, and other than state fortresses of prisons or colleges, it’s a ghost town. The people leaving are conservatives that see themselves becoming sucked dry and increasingly isolated by commies in Albany and NYC. It’s been lost for many years, just taking its time to decompose....