Posted on 12/23/2018 9:56:49 AM PST by SleeperCatcher
Pretty much.
>> We know it’s just the start
Actually, if he gets anything it’s the last amount he gets.
He’ll have a Democrat House that will be under a lot of pressure from its base to impeach him, and he may well get impeached.
There is a very good chance they’ll vote to impeach him if he shuts down the government to get further funding for a wall.
Nothing ever backfires on pelosi Schumer clinton demonrats at all....they are degenerates....keep govn shut down....’non essential employees’ shouldn’t be working ever anyway...
Especially since most of the “non essentials” and likely “essentials” have the Christmas holiday week off anyway....
Pi Lousy and Sh*tmer should both ESAD !
What percentage of the government is shutdown and what is the total budgeted cost of that part?
Can we list the twenty most critical functions that are shutdown and the estimated budget cost of each?
If the democrats want these portions funded and reopened, maybe we can deal on at least half. I don’t know the total cost they’re demanding, but it’s no doubt a very large number. If the total budget cost they’re demanding is $200 billion or more (for example), I’d think that the president may let them cut a small percentage, say 3% - 5% out of each dept’s budget and allocate that amount to the wall.
The Democrats rolled President Bush (no new taxes). They want to do the same with President Trump.
This is in their play book. They want to force President Trump to make a deal (with only a promise of some future funding) and the second it is signed they will be on the campaign trail saying the President is a liar, he broke his promise to the American people.
I think President Trump is smart enough to figure this out on his own. We will see what we will see.
She loves to double down on stupid.
We will sob stories about businesses effected by the shut down.
The only difference is that a whole bunch of people just got a paid vacation.
“2019? Shutdown can go to 2020 or even till the next elections as far as I am concerned. Under no circumstances should there be a surrender on border wall funding.”
When does the continuing resolution for the budget end? Go all the way to that point.
Who cares Schmucky if the government stays closed. While your not in session, you a-holes aren’t spending our money.
New congress requires new bills.
This FReeper most certainly would NOT!!! $5billion or nuthin'. The gvt can stay shutdown for all of 2019 if needed.
It's interesting that AFAIK, neither Nancy nor Chuckles has said anything about the Go Fund Me Wall.
I found a list of the agency’s affected by the 2013 shutdown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_agencies_affected_by_the_United_States_federal_government_shutdown_of_2013
Surely we can find $5 billion to cut out of the hundreds of billions the democrats are demanding for all these bloated departmental budgets and allocate it to the wall. Maybe permanently furlough a small percentage of the non-essential personnel?
Then the crisis will be over and we can all go home happy and the government and the congress can go back to work. Hmmmmm... on the other hand.
And how many past budgets, within the past year, was it dropped. Three. No, Trump has already compromised.
Reviewing the list now.
I’d start by offering to cut:
100% of the Department of Agriculture
100% of the Department of Commerce
100% of the Department of Education
100% of the Department of Energy
100% of the Department of Health and Human Services
100% of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
100% of the Food and Drug Administration
100% of the National Institutes of Health
100% of the Department of Housing and Urban Development
100% of the Department of Labor
100% of the Department of Transportation
100% of the Environmental Protection Agency
100% of the Federally funded research and development centers
100% of the General Services Administration
100% of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
100% of the National Archives
100% of the National Labor Relations Board
100% of the National Science Foundation
100% of the National Transportation Safety Board
100% of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission
100% of the Office of Special Counsel
100% of the Small Business Administration
100% of the Smithsonian Institution
And I’m sure there’s plenty of room to cut in departments not listed.
If any of the functions listed above to be cut are truly needed and necessary—AND are powers expressly delegated to the United States by the Constitution—they can be greatly reduced and included in the dept of defense or interior, etc, and or returned to the states or to the people per the tenth amendment.
Now waiting for Nancy and Chuckie’s counter offer.
I am so looking forward to Trump’s idea of a govt shut down................................
When the new House members are sworn in Jan. 3 the loathsome leftist Nancy Pelosi will become Speaker of the House. If this current bill is not passed by both houses and signed into law before the current Congress ends its term then a new bill has to be created and the Pelosicrats will have much more control over that process.
Reportedly Kushner, Mulvaney and Pence offered the $1.6B figure to stave off the shutdown—but the House GOP forced them to stick to $5B.
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