The very mathematics that works consistently on a Earth the same way it does on Mars and beyond
= = =
What!
1+1 does not = 3 on Mars?
/s off
Enjoyed/agree with your post!
I was having a similar conversation years ago with a hard core atheist in which I said I didn't think mathematics would be impossible were it not for a creator. And I gave him a similar argument.
He said "mathematics in no way proves the existence of God."
Frustratedly, I said, "imagine you were a spaceman and were the first visitor from Earth to arrive on a barren planet. But after a little bit of exploring, you came upon an elaborate and very precise conglomeration of machines that looked like a factory.
What conclusion would you draw about your discovery?
He said, "well, it's obvious it's not natural so I would conclude that someone alien to me created it.
Now reconsider mathematics.
Imagine you discovered that the entire known universe and probably all parts of the universe yet discovered from the biggest thing you can see or even envision to the smallest thing possible including everything down to the atomic level all were in fact an abstraction of a machine...and could even be tested and found to behave according to precise rules and principles?
That is what mathematics is, wouldn't you agree?
So, what kind of being would you say designed all that and put it in place is?
He said, "well, it might look like a god to me, but that doesn't mean it is God."
I said to him, "well, we have established that something god-like designed and created everything we know of or can imagine. The only question now is, what is He?"
He said, "I don't know...but I am feeling very confused."