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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was there in 2007. By the time I left, I had concluded we would need to stay 100+ years to make a difference. And no one in their right mind would stay there 100+ years...


6 posted on 12/20/2018 5:14:33 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers

Friend who served as an officer told me we cannot win there and cannot stop their opium trade, except with tactics we are not going to employ, such as telling key players we will kill their entire family if they betray us.

He also mentioned the level of lack of education. In training them to be part of a modern military, most of them had never seen a fork before. It was that basic.

Then there was the “boy night” every week. He learned not to smile at the children otherwise they would be brought to his room by an elder for sex that night.


22 posted on 12/20/2018 5:23:31 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: Mr Rogers

We never won a thing because winning has been undefined. Time to leave. We never defined winning, never could and never would. We haven’t got the need or the will to figure out what winning is there or how to do it. At least the Afghanis have the guts to stand on principles.
We won’t a nd we have something worth far more to fight for.

Our troops won tactically but we could never lead them to strategic victory. Afghanistan is not known as the graveyard of empires for nothing.


67 posted on 12/20/2018 6:04:29 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaged our dreams for survival. We just ha va few days that don't suck.)
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To: Mr Rogers

The only way we could change it is total colonization using the British model. I am not too interested in that.


68 posted on 12/20/2018 6:09:11 PM PST by WilliamCooper1
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I work from r big time Afghans
They Say even Kabul
Is a war zone


94 posted on 12/20/2018 6:51:32 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Mr Rogers

We’re at 73 years in Japan


108 posted on 12/20/2018 8:07:56 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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