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To: rellimpank
According to the FBI, there were 15,070 homicides in 2016, of which 11,004 utilized a firearm, 11,004 isn't even nearly half.

I have a problem conflating people who don't want to die (murder victims) with people who want to die (suicides).

Japan has essentially no guns in civilian hands, and has a higher suicide rate than the US.

25 posted on 12/16/2018 8:14:56 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Every nation gets the government it deserves." -Joseph de Maistre)
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To: Sooth2222

IIRC homicides, as defined by the FBI, include all non suicide deaths to include legal use in self defense, police actions, negligent discharges, as well as murder.


30 posted on 12/16/2018 11:19:13 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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