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To: DoodleDawg

I must disagree. When all officer involved shootings involving “innocent” individuals are compiled a relatively large percentage are ruled justified due to inappropriate response by the civilian gun owner.

If even half of that % is accurate (as certainly some police butt cover is inevitable) It’s a sizeable number.

One would naturally expect that CCW holders being shot more often is simply a result of more CCW holders in the citizenry as certain number of these are simply result of “perfect storm” circumstances where neither party was negligent.

You will find that most experienced officers actually are more at ease (traffic stops) with CCW holders than the general public because they know that CCW holders generally know proper procedure and commit far less crime than the average Joe.

Unfortunately some CCW holders are not familiar with proper procedure or for some inexplicable reason choose to not follow it. And that is a recipe for disaster more often than not.

One thing that is indisputable....If all gun owners would know proper procedure when encountering a LEO and follow it to a T, a significant amount of needless innocent citizens being shot by cops would not occur.


28 posted on 12/11/2018 8:01:23 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
One thing that is indisputable....If all gun owners would know proper procedure when encountering a LEO and follow it to a T, a significant amount of needless innocent citizens being shot by cops would not occur.

Been out, so I'm late to the party. There is a big difference between a traffic stop, where you can be calm and do everything they talked about in your CCW class and the aftermath of a deadly fight. If you read the article the author covers all the issues of hearing loss, tunnel vision, etc. Kind of hard to "follow the rules" after you just shot someone in a fight for your life.

66 posted on 12/11/2018 7:24:13 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: traderrob6
You will find that most experienced officers actually are more at ease (traffic stops) with CCW holders than the general public because they know that CCW holders generally know proper procedure and commit far less crime than the average Joe.

Not so sure about that...I was pulled over and the officer took my license and registration, went back to his cruiser and returned and said, "do you have a firearm in your vehicle? My computer says you have a CCW permit"

I told him I did have a loaded firearm in my vehicle and he told me he considered it a 'courtesy' for me to have notified him of this fact. I was polite and he only gave me a warning, and I pointed out that I was on his side and CCW holders have the lowest crime rate in the US...he merely repeated that he considered it a courtesy to be advised.

I asked my local LEO buddies what they thought of this and they all laughed and said I should have told him to got to hell. LOL...easy for them to say!!

86 posted on 12/12/2018 1:38:05 PM PST by Cuttnhorse (Never fear the cow)
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