China Vows ‘Severe Consequences’ If Huawei Official Is Not Released

The Wall Street Journal ^ | December 8, 2018 | Eva Dou

[familyop]

Meng Wanzhou is being held in Canada at U.S. request to be extradited, face allegations she violated sanctions on dealing with Iran BEIJING—China issued an ultimatum to Canada, demanding the immediate release of Huawei Technologies Co.’s finance chief or face unspecified “severe consequences.” Chinese Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng summoned Canada’s ambassador to Beijing, John McCallum, on Saturday to deliver the warning, according to a statement from the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

[cba123]

I agree. :D

[Peter ODonnell]

The boy in charge up here seemed a bit peeved at the police for executing this request to arrest and extradite (at Vancouver airport during a stopover for the Chinese woman). He said with his “me no like” facial expression that “it was a matter for law enforcement and the political side did not get involved.” Knowing Justin’s insatiable love for Chinese communism, he probably wanted to get involved, but can’t find a legal way to do so (and even in our tightly managed political environment it would be a hot button issue to side with the Chinese government).

I imagine the severe consequences will be another few planeloads of millionaire Chinese investors buying up properties, then leaving them to rot for ten years, collecting on the insurance when squatters burn them down.

Or maybe it will be another dozen young bucks with high end sports cars creating havoc on the roads, it appears that their concept of speed limit is to add a zero to whatever the signs say.

[atc23]

That’s the Camay soap girl

[jonrick46]

Meng Wanzhou’s nose looks strangely skewed to the right. She must like to sleep on her left side or something . . .

[Flaming Conservative]

Hawhawhaw!

[nevadapatriot]

No more fortune cookies

[vannrox]

Under what authority

Does the DHS have over a Chinese national who's products are banned in America, and not available to Americans, to such an extent that they demand capture and extradition to the USA? This is a good question, and I am NOT seeing anyone answer it.

[palmer]

Huawei US job openings:

Administrative Assistant - Contract Santa Clara, CA - Great America (R&D)
Administrative Assistant - Contract Seattle, WA (SSM)
Administrative Assistant - Contract Miami, FL (Device)
AR/VR Opto-Mechanical Staff Engineer Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Architect— Network Management Cloud Engine Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Artificial Intelligence Intern Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Big Data Principal Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Big Data Principal Engineer Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Chief Architect for Cloud Networking Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Chief Architect – Management & Control Plane Framingham, MA (R&D)
Chief Architect of APIs Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Chief Architect of Open Source RDS Data Base Engine Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Chief Data Management Architect Framingham, MA (R&D)
Chief Expert for Product Intelligence Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Chief Expert for Reliability Intelligence Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Cloud Computing Intern Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Contract Fulfillment Specialist -Contractor Plano, TX (SSM)
Data Center Operation Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Data Lake Principal Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Development IDE Tools Chief Architect Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Distinguished Engineer - Video Platform Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Distinguished IP Protocol Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Intern – Artificial Intelligence for IT Operations Framingham, MA (R&D)
Intern - Distributed Computing Platform Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Intern - SMURFS Cambridge, MA (R&D)
Intern – Software/IoT Champaign, IL (R&D)
IT System Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
IT Technical Program Manager Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Junior Product Manager Plano, TX (SSM)
Layout Mask Design Staff Engineer Louisville, CO (R&D)
Legal Counsel – Contracts Attorney Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Paralegal-Contractor Plano, TX (SSM)
Principal AI Research Engineer Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Applied Researcher (Optimization and XAI) Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Architect, Mobile Services Platform Mountain View, CA (R&D)
Principal Architect for Cloud Storage Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Architect for Network Computing Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Architect for of Hyper-convergence Technology Framingham, MA (R&D)
Principal Cloud Native Platform Architect Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Cloud Software Architect Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal EMI/RFI Engineer Chandler, AZ (R&D)
Principal Engineer Bellevue, WA (R&D)
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Principal Engineer, DevCloud Tools Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Engineer, Pipeline Tool Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Engineer, Product Management Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Engineer - CPU Performance Austin, TX (R&D)
Principal Engineer-Design for Reliability Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Engineer – Distributed Computing Bellevue, WA (R&D)
Principal Engineer - GPU Micro-architecture Austin, TX (R&D)
Principal Engineer - GPU Micro-architecture Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Engineer in Integrated Circuit Designs Plano, TX (R&D)
Principal Graphics Framework Architect San Diego, CA (R&D)
Principal Infrastructure Architect Framingham, MA (R&D)
Principal Interconnect Engineer San Diego, CA (R&D)
Principal Power Integrity Engineer Chandler, AZ (R&D)
Principal Process Integration Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Reliability Engineer Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
Principal Researcher - AI/Big Data Framingham, MA (R&D)
Principal Researcher - Storage Software Framingham, MA (R&D)
Principal Research Scientist Santa Clara, CA (R&D)
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[familyop]

I’m not a legal expert. But from my understanding of the news, the DHS is not the authority in the matter, and she is probably charged with a crime other than selling banned products in the U.S.

[familyop]

"That’s the Camay soap girl"

Her photos do show a very clear complexion. I'm sure that Canada and the U.S. will see to it that she's safe, very well cared for and comfortable.

[Gen.Blather]

It’s a dangerous trend to set; holding citizens of other countries responsible to laws of a different country. If they want to prevent her from doing business in the US, fine. But holding her to laws of a country where she is not a citizen?

[familyop]

"If they want to prevent her from doing business in the US, fine."

According to the news, that's not the charge.

"But holding her to laws of a country where she is not a citizen?"

That's always been necessary, even in the more free countries in some kinds of cases. I had a look at your FR page just now and see that you should know about and agree with those kinds of cases.

[familyop]

Very interesting list of jobs. The locations show that we’ve had quite a security hole.

[RoosterRedux]

Since a communist government fosters no innovation, they have to steal it. That turns the government of China into basically an organized crime operation.

With the U.S. leading the way, the world is going to stand up to China.

The only options China has are: (1) begin to make the transition to a market economy that encourages innovation or (2) wage war on the rest of the world. BTW, the latter is what China has been building up its military for and developing those new island bases in the South China sea. 80%+- of China's oil comes through the South China Sea trade routes. If they weren't planning for war there would be no need to secure these routes.

Trump and his team know the score on this.

[Gen.Blather]

Below is America’s anti boycott law. It prohibits a US citizen from participating in a boycott that is not officially sanctioned by the US government. Why would a law like this not apply to a Chinese citizen not boycotting a country that China does not officially boycott?

As to misleading banks concerning a relationship, well, that’s where the lawyers come in and, perhaps that is the issue. Seems like a gray area to me. Also, what is “misleading?” Did they not mention it or did they lie about it? The article isn’t clear. But taking arguable positions when it could easily affect US citizens doing business in China should be taken into consideration. Erdogan holding a US preacher as a terrorist to gain political advantage comes to mind. Also, Britain’s impressment of Americans based on British law may apply.

(Wiki on Impressment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment#Basis )

Anti-Boycott Laws
The Export Administration Act (EAA) prohibits US individuals and entities from participating in a boycott that is not approved or sanctioned by the government. The Department of Commerce (DoC) punishes violations through the 1976 Tax Reform Act by denying tax benefits. The purpose of these prohibitions is to prevent US organizations and entities from being used to implement foreign policies that run counter to US policy. The DoC regulations prohibit the following agreements or actions:
refusal to do business with/in Israel or with blacklisted companies furnishing information about business relationships with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies discriminating against other persons on the basis of race, religion, sex, national origin, or nationality
furnishing information about the race, religion, sex, or national origin of another person
implementing letters of credit containing prohibited boycott terms or conditions

The Treasury Department publishes a quarterly list of “boycotting countries.” Past lists have included: Lebanon, Libya, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen, and Iraq. Additional information can be found through the Office of Anti-Boycott Compliance.
Additionally, it is important to know that:
IRS regulations require US taxpayers to report services performed in, with, or related to a boycotting country or its nationals, whether or not they are for-profit.
Violations of any of the reporting requirements or anti-boycott laws can result in significant fines, administrative sanctions, and potentially imprisonment.
If you are planning to conduct any activities or transact business in one of the countries on the Treasury Department list, you should contact the Office of the General Counsel.)

[reg45]

Severe Consequences: China will ban imports of maple syrup from Canada.

[familyop]

"With the U.S. leading the way, the world is going to stand up to China."

Even a BBC reporter agreed with that early yesterday morning. He listed a few of the many participating nations in an interview with a woman reporter.

[mewzilla]

Q: Anyone seen the former head of Interpol lately....?

[servantboy777]

To be sure, Communist Chinese corporate/intellectual property espionage is alive and well.

Our dumb @$$ lawmakers up in D.C., both sides of the isle, play nice nice with the commies in exchange for escorts, excursions, gifts (that to the ordinary working guy would be considered bribery) in exchange for access to our research institutions, military installations, colleges and corporate America.

We really do have the dumbest government on the planet. My company backed out of dealings with Huawei in part because they are a communist government owned entity that does everything in their power to place equipment throughout with electronics/software code for the express purpose of gleaning sensitive information from all of the above.

Furthermore, the communist are using democratic Taiwan as a platform to infiltrate throughout corporate America. It's freaking crazy...and our so call best/brightest up in D.C. slobber all over themselves to make these sorts of deals happen.

[RoosterRedux]

Whichever U.S. agency Meng Wanzhou is turned over to, I think the question would not be "why" that agency has the authority to take her into custody, but "what does her being taken into custody by such agency" tell us about the nature of her crimes (if anything).

Your comment implies that you think DHS is overstepping their authority. Though the article above doesn't mention DHS, I don't doubt whichever agency receives Meng will be the one with authority.

If I had to guess, I would think the violation of U.S. sanctions against Iran or the Norks is only a smoke screen for what she and Huawei are really doing.

Theft of intellectual property has a better feel...or perhaps spying on the U.S. in some indirect manner.