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FBI does not consider ‘Proud Boys’ an extremist group, agent says
The Hill ^ | 12 08 2018 | Morgan Gstalter

Posted on 12/08/2018 9:08:53 AM PST by yesthatjallen

A high-ranking member of the FBI in Oregon said that the agency does not designate the far-right Proud Boys as an extremist group, contradicting a report from a law enforcement official in Washington state last month.

Special Agent in Charge Renn Cannon said this week that there was a misinterpretation during a slide-show presentation hosted for officials at the Clark County Sheriff’s Office in Vancouver, Wash., according to the Oregonian.

FBI agents briefed law enforcement leaders in Clark County about the Proud Boys, a far-right group which labels itself as "a pro-Western fraternal organization for men who refuse to apologize for creating the modern world; aka Western Chauvinists."

The slide-show presentation also included information on white supremacists, militia groups and anarchists, Cannon said.

The Clark County Sheriff’s Office later released a report saying the Proud Boys is classified as an extremist group.

The Hill has reached out to the FBI for comment.

The FBI tries to characterize potential threats from members of the Proud Boys but does not designate groups, Cannon explained.

“We do not intend and did not intend to designate the group as extremist,” he said of the presentation, according to the Oregonian.

In a statement to The Hill in November, the FBI emphasized its investigations "focus solely on criminal activity of individuals — regardless of group membership—which appears to be intended to intimidate or coerce the civilian population or influence the policy of the government by intimidation or coercion."

The agency also told The Hill, "The FBI can never initiate an investigation based solely on an individual’s race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, or the exercise of First Amendment rights."

"Our focus is not on membership in particular groups but on individuals who commit violence and criminal activity that constitutes a federal crime or poses a threat to national security," the statement also said. "The FBI does not and will not police ideology."

Gavin McInnes, the founder of Proud Boys, disassociated from the group last month.

McInnes, who also co-founded Vice Media years ago, has repeatedly denied that the Proud Boys are a white nationalist or "alt-right" organization. He was denied a visa to Australia after failing a character test.

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), however, does consider the Proud Boys a hate group.

“Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists,” the SPLC's website states. “They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric.”

The group has been involved in several violent clashes in Portland and New York.

Amazon and PayPal have both cut ties with the group and Facebook is also banning accounts associated with the Proud Boys.


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"Our focus is not on membership in particular groups but on individuals who commit violence and criminal activity that constitutes a federal crime or poses a threat to national security," the statement also said. "The FBI does not and will not police ideology."

Then why isn't the FBI going after Antifa?

1 posted on 12/08/2018 9:08:53 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Well probably because aunt-teefuh is a service group providing help to the down-trodden in the communtiy. Or something.


2 posted on 12/08/2018 9:10:25 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Involved in several violent clashes”

Odd way to report about the times they have been physically attacked by vicious leftists.


3 posted on 12/08/2018 9:14:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Because Antifa serves the government in suppressing right wing dissent.


4 posted on 12/08/2018 9:17:22 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: yesthatjallen

“The group takes its name from the song “Proud of Your Boy”, which was cut from the Disney film Aladdin, in which the title character apologizes to his mother.”

I looked up what proud boys are supposed to be according to Wikipedia—they supposedly named themselves after some cut song from Aladdin? Huh?

Freegards


5 posted on 12/08/2018 9:23:14 AM PST by Ransomed
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"He was denied a visa to Australia after failing a character test"

Actually he was denied entrance based on a campaign run by an Ethiopian "refugee" named Nyadol Nyuon.

Her status as a "refugee" is about as credible as the Hondurans assaulting the barriers in San Ysiro.

The online campaign is here:

Gavin McInnes Petition

So a woman with zero connection to Australia - in fact, she has no ethnic ties or family history in that country settled and created by Anglo-Saxon and Celtic Whites - manages to BAN the free movement into that country of a man who probably has real family and definitely ethnic and political ties to just about every original Australian.

This will be our futures too if we let them get away with it. Soon, "Barrister" Nyuon will be asserting that "the whites have too much, they must compensate all of us non-whites" and the beginnings of land confiscation and legal ostracism will get under way in Australia. By banning McInnes - a rugged Scottish name if there ever was one - she has already achieved one of these goals.

The only test McInnes "failed" was the Left wing alienation test: he's not alienated from the Australian nation, which she clearly is.

But she and the other Takeover gangsters plan to reverse that.

6 posted on 12/08/2018 9:28:33 AM PST by Regulator
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7 posted on 12/08/2018 9:31:06 AM PST by gaijin
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We know why.
The FBI and CIA now only target Conservatives.
They haven’t looked at liberals since E.L.F back in the ‘90s


8 posted on 12/08/2018 9:40:23 AM PST by Zathras
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To: gaijin

A tragedy and a crime.


9 posted on 12/08/2018 9:46:08 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

>>The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), however, does consider the Proud Boys a hate group.

The SPLC *is* a hate group.

So there!


10 posted on 12/08/2018 10:16:51 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: yesthatjallen

Our focus is not on membership in particular groups but on individuals who commit violence and criminal activity that constitutes a federal crime or poses a threat to national security,” the statement also said. “The FBI does not and will not ideology.”

Well then, what about SorozNazi and his evil co-conspirators, front groups galore including AntiFa, Occupy Wall Street, Ferguson, BDS, etc.?


11 posted on 12/08/2018 10:22:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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Hate Group? = “The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC”)?


12 posted on 12/08/2018 10:22:46 AM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Stay Calm & MAGA On!)
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Blnk
13 posted on 12/08/2018 10:37:11 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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Then why isn't the FBI going after Antifa?

The FBI is the Dem's Gestapo.

Antifa is the Dem's Waffen SS.

14 posted on 12/08/2018 10:48:21 AM PST by Flick Lives
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Proud Boy Tiny Toese. He didn't get the SPLC "white nationalist hate group" memo


15 posted on 12/08/2018 11:13:26 AM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: yesthatjallen

Is that the OFFICIAL fbi stance, or the stance of that particular area office? Sounds like a rationale for not going after groups like Antifa. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.


16 posted on 12/08/2018 11:19:18 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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I’m a big fan of The Proud Boys, and am considering joining. They’re one of the only groups that will stand up to pantyfa. Everyone else just talks.


17 posted on 12/08/2018 11:31:48 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Democrats: Party over Country.)
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“....Then why isn’t the FBI going after Antifa? “

It’s a crime if they are not. Antifa engages in systematic violence and property destruction across state lines. The violate the civil rights of those the disagree with.


18 posted on 12/08/2018 11:33:10 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: yesthatjallen

Comcast just fired a guy because he was outed by SJWs as a member of Proud Boys. This shit has to end. People cannot be punished for political membership outside of work. Why even have a constitution when one side can organize politically and another cannot?


19 posted on 12/08/2018 12:44:29 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: gaijin

I will never forgive the FBI and Janet Bulldike, the two Andrade girls were High School friends of mine from College Park High in Pleasant Hill, Ca. One sister got pulled into the Dividians from some weird church in P.Hill. Then the other went to try and get her out and stayed for some reason. The pictures of the bodies afterwards is gruesome. To think what beautiful girls they were then to see what happened to them. Oh and “Official cause of death smoke inhalation”. No they were burned to death.
Ok getting heated.
Rant over.


20 posted on 12/08/2018 1:28:49 PM PST by crazydad
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