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To: rlmorel

I agree. It needs to be fought in other states, where they are sure to push it.

The question is what is the best way to fight it.


92 posted on 12/03/2018 1:03:17 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I think the first step would be awareness and education. That is why I posted the way I did on this thread to so many people-I cannot imagine I am the only one caught completely flat-footed by this practice. (By the way, thanks for that reasonable response-I fully expect to be called “defeatist”....I am an optimist by nature, and think I am simply being “realist” here.)

I live in the bluest of blue states, and I work in health care, and was horrified that they got a ballot question on the ballot about mandating nurse to patient ratios.

Most well meaning people might see that and think “Hey. What could be wrong with that? It sounds like a good idea...” and would vote for it.

But it would have been an incredibly destructive and counterproductive law if you understand hospital staffing issues. The fact that I understand that (to a degree) and being married to an RN who worked those kinds of issues, I was flabbergasted that it was put in front of people (who had no idea or exposure to the ramifications of voting for that) to become law.

I am opposed to ballot measures in general. Because I come from a blue state that decided, when the electorate returned a decision the government disagreed with, they simply disregarded it and did what they pleased. I believe ballot initiatives bypass the elected legislators and becomes a tyranny of the majority.

I understand others may disagree with that, but...having been under the thumb of it, I don’t like it.

Anyway, the first thing is to educate the public in a non-vitriolic way, just what this process of “ballot harvesting” is, and how it is vulnerable to abuse. It puts the ballots in the hands of unelected, un-approved persons (”volunteers”) who are openly and unashamedly biased.


93 posted on 12/03/2018 1:27:08 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: 9YearLurker

5-4 Supreme Court decision on voiding these voters for Federal Elections (re:Bush v.Gore) on the way, WATCH.


104 posted on 12/03/2018 2:23:20 PM PST by sportscaster ("LET'S ROLL")
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To: 9YearLurker
"The question is what is the best way to fight it."

Certiorari.

Ballot-handling cannot escape chain-of-custody outside of elected election officials.

Again, just a simple article detailing California's illegally placing ballot-handling in the hands of nutroots who are not sworn elected election official.

There are state laws nearly everywhere that prohibit ballot 'electioneering' anywhere beyond a polling place set perimeter.

There are a plethora of 2019 off-election primaries in the next 6 months. If someone like O'Keefe can infiltrate the very likely attempt by Democrats somewhere like Illinois to immediately expand ballot dumping and publish the viral video; we have the opportunity to not just end this sedition permanently, but also begin a Federal invest into exactly what happened in Kali, and put rank-and-file Democrats in jail.

This is the missing ingredient - putting these door-to-door shitknobs in prison, thereby warning off any future attempt to subvert elections in this manner. Just in time for 2020.

130 posted on 12/03/2018 6:16:55 PM PST by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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