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Trump: Hey, Who’s Up For A Government Shutdown Over The Border Wall?
Hotair ^ | 11/28/2018 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/28/2018 10:04:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind

If you believe the polling on this question, the answer is not many. That hasn’t discouraged Donald Trump from pushing a budget showdown over funding for the border wall, as Politico found out yesterday. If Trump doesn’t get $5 billion earmarked for the wall, he says he’s willing to shut down the still-unfunded parts of the government … which includes border security, even if the $5 billion doesn’t:

Nine days ahead of a deadline that could trigger a partial government shutdown, with no solution in sight, the president told POLITICO in a Tuesday Oval Office interview that he is unflinchingly firm Congress must send him a bill approving $5 billion for his wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, and said he would “totally be willing” to shut down the government if he doesn’t get it. Democratic leaders — including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) — have said they would approve $1.6 billion for the wall, placing the two sides billions of dollars apart as the lame-duck session begins.

Raising the stakes even higher for the GOP, Trump said the $5 billion would only cover the physical border. “The number is larger for border security,” he said.

Congress and the White House have already passed most of the FY2019 funding plan, don’t forget. The major portions still awaiting their appropriations are State, Justice, aaaaaand Homeland Security, the latter two of which are key to border security and immigration enforcement. A shutdown will make the situation worse in the short run rather than better, and with migrant caravans arriving at the border now, it seems like a rather bad time to stand down for Homeland Security.

Regardless, Trump wants to press on. He told Politico that he’s not interested in the political calculation but in doing what’s necessary. But, Trump says, the border wall is a total winner:

Sitting at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, with a stack of papers, magazines and a soda at the ready, Trump said he now believes that a pitched battle over the border is a “total winner” politically for his party, and a loser for Democrats.

“I don’t do anything … just for political gain,” Trump said. “But I will tell you, politically speaking, that issue is a total winner. People look at the border, they look at the rush to the police, they look at the rock throwers and really hurting three people, three very brave border patrol folks — I think that it’s a tremendous issue, but much more importantly, is really needed. So we have to have border security.”

Just how much of a “total winner” is it? Trump’s big message during the midterms was border security, and Republicans lost at least 39 seats in the House with a few more contests left to settle. The GOP picked up a surprise Senate seat in Florida along with expected flips in deep-red North Dakota, Missouri, and Indiana, but they missed out in Montana and West Virginia while losing a seat in normally Republican Arizona. Given the normal dynamics of first-term midterms the losses weren’t dramatic, but they were losses, and not winners, especially in the suburbs where the border-security issue needed to play well.

Trump’s right in one sense; it’s not really electoral positioning in play here. Now that Democrats control the House, there’s no way Trump gets his border-wall funding after January. It’s now or never, and Trump knows it. He’s got little choice but to play hardball to get the funds, and with the recent violence at the border, perhaps no better context in which to demand it. He’s making that point with Republicans on Capitol Hill, the New York Times reported last night:

President Trump told House Republican leaders on Tuesday that Congress must accede to his demand to include $5 billion for a southern border wall in a hefty year-end spending bill, intensifying a fight over one of his signature campaign promises that could lead to a partial government shutdown next week.

With less than 10 working days to wrestle out the details of an anticipated seven-bill spending package and deliver a measure to the president’s desk, Democrats have shown little sign of giving in to Mr. Trump’s demands. But House Republican leaders said after a private White House meeting that Mr. Trump would not back down, and sought to turn Democrats’ opposition against them.

So yes, it appears Trump is very serious about this threat, both in public and in private. Will it work? Chuck Schumer seemed to indicate that he’d play Let’s Make a Deal yesterday, as Allahpundit noted, maybe for the whole $5 billion, which is a relative drop in the bucket in budgetary matters anyway (and just a head start on total construction costs, for that matter). With the increased leverage Schumer will have after January with a House majority to back him up, though, he’s going to want something significant in return to give Trump his victory. Schumer might be a little gun-shy about shutdowns after his DACA debacle, but he also knows this one will be fully on Trump.

So what does Schumer demand? A Mueller-protection bill? It looks like Jeff Flake has already won him that much. Maybe a return of the filibuster on presidential appointments? That’d be too high an ask. I’d guess that Schumer will demand his DACA deal, which would prompt Trump to demand his other “pillars” on immigration. Maybe we can wrap up the whole thing before New Year … or maybe we’ll just shut government down until then. Bet on the latter, if that’s Schumer’s ask.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borderwall; congress; shutdown
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1 posted on 11/28/2018 10:04:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: If Trump doesn’t get $5 billion earmarked for the wall, he says he’s willing to shut down the still-unfunded parts of the government … which includes border security,

Just $5 Billion? I thought the original projected cost would be $25 Billion?


2 posted on 11/28/2018 10:05:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Count me in. It is about time the world recognizes we have laws agains’t “invasions” by ANYONE.


3 posted on 11/28/2018 10:06:22 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m ready.

If we don’t get the funding in this lame duck session, we’re not going to get it.

Now or never.


4 posted on 11/28/2018 10:06:31 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Make Chuck Schumer bend his knee.


5 posted on 11/28/2018 10:08:37 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It pains me to admit it, because I loathe the little snake, but Little Marco made sense on Fox and Friends this morning when he said that it’s worthless to build SOME of the wall, comparing it to building the second story of a house without building the first.


6 posted on 11/28/2018 10:11:43 AM PST by Pravious
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To: SeekAndFind
Schumer might be a little gun-shy about shutdowns after his DACA debacle, but he also knows this one will be fully on Trump.

Schumer, and this writer, apparently missed the polling data that shows very high support for the wall, and very low opinion of congress.

7 posted on 11/28/2018 10:13:50 AM PST by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The article says the issue is unpopular based on the election results? Idiotic.


8 posted on 11/28/2018 10:19:08 AM PST by Williams (The New Democrat Slogan: Choke It Down!)
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To: Pravious

The Memorizer Bunny does not want any of the wall built.
His support for amnesty showed US what side he is on.


9 posted on 11/28/2018 10:19:40 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SeekAndFind

Me! Me!


10 posted on 11/28/2018 10:21:11 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: SeekAndFind

I AM! SHUT IT DOWN!


11 posted on 11/28/2018 10:21:45 AM PST by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: Pravious

Tell Little Marco the 1st floor (US Military )is already there.


12 posted on 11/28/2018 10:22:44 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Williams

RE: The article says the issue is unpopular based on the election results? Idiotic.

OK, riddle me this — if the issue were popular, why did the voters vote as they did?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATES WHO SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF THE WALL?

Yet, many candidates who supported the Wall — LOST.


13 posted on 11/28/2018 10:23:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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RE: Schumer, and this writer, apparently missed the polling data that shows very high support for the wall, and very low opinion of congress.

OK, riddle me this — if the issue were popular, why did the voters vote as they did?

Wouldn’t it make more sense to VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATES WHO SUPPORT THE BUILDING OF THE WALL?

Yet, many congressional candidates who supported the Wall — LOST.


14 posted on 11/28/2018 10:24:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because a ton of illegals, already here because we have no wall, were able to vote against them.


15 posted on 11/28/2018 10:25:49 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: Williams

I guess the writer is a never trumper.


16 posted on 11/28/2018 10:33:27 AM PST by Jean2
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To: SeekAndFind

Just $5 Billion? I thought the original projected cost would be $25 Billion?

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Who knows what the final cost will be as it is a long range project.
Funding for the wall is much like the Interstate system. A section
at a time and over years it gets to completion.


17 posted on 11/28/2018 10:41:49 AM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump has threatened several times to shut down the government, over border funding and other things. He hasn’t done it yet. The threat is an empty one.


18 posted on 11/28/2018 10:45:25 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind

He doesn’t need to shut down the government and is apparently averse to the idea. He can get the 25 bil from the military budget after the appropriate declaration of emergency and recoup by taxing foreign remittances by 10% or so. He can do all that by EO. Some traffic court judge will, of course, strike it all down but the time is past when Trump should just assert the unconstitutionality of such stuff at levels below the USSC and go ahead.


19 posted on 11/28/2018 10:46:14 AM PST by arthurus (hu)
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To: SeekAndFind

The republicans didn’t even try to make the wall a national issue for the election. By not even trying, they let the left define the election on their own terms - which has always been a losing proposition.


20 posted on 11/28/2018 10:51:19 AM PST by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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