How Chinese overseas students are learning harsh life lessons

South China Morning Post ^ | Eric Fish

[Salvavida]

"The scope of these operations is difficult to determine.."

I read this classified report last year when it came out. It is NOT difficult to determine the scope of these operations. It's only difficult if you do NO analysis and behave like morons, buying your head in the sand and dismissing fundamental Chinese National Strategy.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Honestly, Chinese students should be banned from the United States. They bring rampant spying, both on the campus and in industries, and I say this despite how much I have enjoyed teaching Chinese students English.

[Zhang Fei]

The people doing the coercing are basically spies operating under non-official cover. The day we snag one of these people and hand out a 10-year prison term is the day the Chinese government starts having issues recruiting them.

[Salvavida]

There are some things I cannot say in public forum.

[Zhang Fei]

[Honestly, Chinese students should be banned from the United States. They bring rampant spying, both on the campus and in industries, and I say this despite how much I have enjoyed teaching Chinese students English.]

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The people coming here are, by and large, almost by definition
xenophiles and people who think the grass is greener here. While there are spies sprinkled in there, it’s an opportunity to establish contacts that may prove useful later. How many of our current spies in China spent time stateside? I would wager not a small number. Some have come in from the cold. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Junping But others probably remain in place. There will come a time - when the PLA embarks on a grand tour of China’s neighbors - when we will need the insights they have on decision making at the highest levels of Chinese power.

[VanShuyten]

Ummmm... We knew this 40 years ago when the Chicoms started sending thousands of students to US universities, that were happy to have so many students paying out of state tuition.

[gaijin]

The double-standard here is strong.

“Do not interfere with out INTERNAL matters” —that is a frequent Chinese theme.

Yet behold THIS.

The same for property, what belongs to China ABSOLUTELY belongs to her.

YOUR stuff..? Oh, well that is debatable.

[Zhang Fei]

[The double-standard here is strong.

“Do not interfere with out INTERNAL matters” —that is a frequent Chinese theme.

Yet behold THIS.

The same for property, what belongs to China ABSOLUTELY belongs to her.

YOUR stuff..? Oh, well that is debatable.]

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I think it’s a single standard. And that standard is that All Under Heaven https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianxia will eventually belong to the Emperor. That is why China’s neighbors, which will change as it expands, need to keep their defenses up, with significant expenditures on equipment and training, if they don’t want to end up Chinese provinces.

[Zhang Fei]

[There are some things I cannot say in public forum.]

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I expect guys like the ones profiled here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3392867/posts and here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3597887/posts have provided invaluable information about org charts re the Chinese High Command as well as potentially useful dirt. I have to wonder if any of that dirt was useful in suborning some of these people.

[Deaf Smith]

Brother for a while had a Chinese national as a neighbor. Guy and family spoke not one lick of English.

Due to items being shipped to and from the Chink's home, brother did some back ground search.

The Chink taught computer science at UT Arlinton to...

...Chinese nationals.

Short time after Chink was aware of brother checking up, he moved out.

[Cowboy Bob]

Why do we allow Chinese into our Universities?

[HiTech RedNeck]

The “Emperor” now being the Communist system?

Whatever men may mean, what God means will be all that matters in the end.

[The Westerner]

This has been chronicled here at FR since the 90’s.

It’s axiomatic that when America invites any citizen of a totalitarian regime onto our soil spying and blackmail of the spies or businessmen or college students will ensue. I regard my Chinese neighbors in that light. They operate freely because of the language barrier.

If you were alive during the Cold War and earlier, you understood these facts of life. I blame Kissinger and Nixon for this particular debacle.

[Zhang Fei]

[The “Emperor” now being the Communist system?]

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The Emperor would be whichever despot currently occupies the Chinese throne. The system’s not Communist in the literal sense of the word. It never was. An actual Communist regime would have seen seen officials going hungry along with the hoi polloi during a famine. As tens of millions of Chinese died, China’s senior officials invariably looked like they could stand to shed a few pounds.

Wherever “Communism” has been established, it has always been a fig leaf for the establishment of a hereditary aristocracy. New regimes have traditionally seized the property of the losing factions and used that to reward both generals and foot soldiers responsible for their victory. “Communists” took that a step further and seized everyone’s property to reward their supporters. “Leninism” was basically the word used to justify absolute monarchy under the title of General Secretary, but with a far more repressive totalitarian twist.

[Elsie]

... Australia needs to be conscious of foreign influence in its universities, which affects the behaviour of lecturers and foreign students.

Likewise...

... America needs to be conscious of national leftist influence in its universities, which affects the behavior of lecturers and all students.

[Elsie]

Then say the things you can.

[Elsie]

Guy and family spoke not one lick of English.

Are you SURE?

[Deaf Smith]

No.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well whoever or whatever it is (if it can even be fulfilled now, as by the president of PROC?), it is going to be in a clash with Christian faith. Both accounts of heaven can’t be simultaneously true. They don’t even have the same flavor. Chinese tradition has a selfish heaven; Christian tradition has a sharing heaven.