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To: Eddie01

What a strange and different culture China has. I’m sure, like America, there are subtle differences in the different regions like between NYC, the Deep South, and SoCal. All different.

I doubt our government could get away with putting a million people into the homes of another million without being invited or welcomed like China did.

Can you imagine one million conservatives being placed in (suspected) Islamic homes to spy on them and they knew it? No way would that fly.

Then again I didn’t think America would be so flooded with immigrants from mostly Hispanic countries either yet it is.


9 posted on 11/23/2018 1:52:39 PM PST by Boomer (The only good leftists are those who have 'left us' for another country)
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To: Boomer

[What a strange and different culture China has. I’m sure, like America, there are subtle differences in the different regions like between NYC, the Deep South, and SoCal. All different.

I doubt our government could get away with putting a million people into the homes of another million without being invited or welcomed like China did.]


It’s pre-WWII in its mentality. After the Holocaust, all kinds of brutal, but very effective tools that governments used to pacify restive populations went out of fashion in Europe. I’d say it’s the principal reason the European empires around the world rapidly fell apart. This latest tactic by the Chinese government is actually fairly mild by historical standards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzungar_genocide

They weren’t Nazis. Anyone willing to live peaceably under the Emperor’s rule was left alone. But populations that rebelled were dealt with collectively. Civilian populations that supported armed rebels were punished along with the actual combatants. You might say that it was unfair that people who were innocent or neutral were punished along with the rebel’s actual supporters. But the state did not have the resources to investigate the rebels to the point of establishing guilt beyond reasonable doubt. And to investigate it to that extent would have diverted resources needed to fight the rebels. So they cast a wide net and killed large numbers in exemplary massacres designed to deter anyone thinking of helping the rebels.

I understand Orwell’s 1984 is currently held to be the apex of what a totalitarian state can do to ensure obedience. Nothing could be further from the truth. The old, much more economic method, was to kill suspected rebels along with their closest kin and acquaintances, numbering perhaps in the thousands or tens of thousands, while seizing their property. In Roman times, Augustus made himself rich by proscribing large numbers of patricians who were directly or indirectly aligned against Caesar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proscription#Proscription_of_43_BC In China, proscriptions extended to both relatives and friends. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_familial_exterminations


35 posted on 11/23/2018 3:27:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: Boomer

Oh, we’d do it the opposite way, for sure, if Hillary were President. The US government would pick illegals to be sponsored by a US family with suspected “anti-immigrant” proclivities and encourage the visiting family to report on their hosts.


42 posted on 11/23/2018 5:20:39 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Boomer

The British government did this. Its why we have the 3rd Amendment. No doubt, something similar in this country would be a violation of the 3rd amendment because they would be held to be “soldiers” for purposes of the amendment.


46 posted on 11/23/2018 5:48:23 PM PST by FLT-bird
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