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UK - MI6 spooks battling Donald Trump over release of classified Russia probe documents
Yahoo News ^ | November 21, 2018 | Ben Riley-Smith

Posted on 11/22/2018 10:31:05 AM PST by dennisw

MI6 chiefs are secretly battling Donald Trump to stop him publishing classified information linked to the Russian election meddling investigation.

The UK is warning that the US president would undermine intelligence gathering if he releases pages of an FBI application to wiretap one of his former campaign advisers.

However Trump allies are fighting back, demanding transparency and asking why Britain would oppose the move unless it had something to hide.

It forces the spotlight on whether the UK played a role in the FBI's investigation launched before the 2016 presidential election into Trump campaign ties to the Kremlin.

The Telegraph has talked to more than a dozen UK and US officials, including in American intelligence, who have revealed details about the row.

British spy chiefs have “genuine concern” about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public, according to figures familiar with discussions.

“It boils down to the exposure of people”, said one US intelligence official, adding: “We don’t want to reveal sources and methods.” US intelligence shares the concerns of the UK.

Another said Britain feared setting a dangerous “precedent” which could make people less likely to share information, knowing that it could one day become public.

The current row is deemed so politically sensitive that staff at the British embassy in Washington DC have been barred from discussing it with journalists.

Theresa May, who already has a testing relationship with Mr Trump, has also been kept at arms-length and is understood to have not raised the issue directly with the US president. Trump's two-year headache

The row is about an FBI request to wiretap Carter Page, a former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, which was made in October 2016 - the month before the US election.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; carterpage; eavesdropping; europeanunion; fisagate; germany; mi6; nato; russia; spygate; theresamay; tories; trumprussia; unitedkingdom; wiretap; wiretapping
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To: gaijin

“Maybe Britain is now an ENEMY.”

Or a friend of our deep state.


21 posted on 11/22/2018 11:02:47 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: CatOwner
"Dear President Trump: If you read this, please declassify and release this info. Let the “chips fall where they may”". He won't do it."

You are probably correct, but the follow on question is what do they have on him that he won't force what he has ordered and threatened more than once.

22 posted on 11/22/2018 11:03:34 AM PST by Truth29
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To: george76

Whatever Russian interference in the election was miniscule compared to UK, Mexico and Saudi Arabia.

The elites are afraid of the American people figuring that out.


23 posted on 11/22/2018 11:14:36 AM PST by crusher2013
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To: gaijin

They started as an enemy and at some point became co-horts in crime, as nations we were never friends even if the populations generally learned to get along well.


24 posted on 11/22/2018 11:17:05 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: dennisw

Shut down the UK now. They are Muzzie loving scum that are no longer needed as Allies. The DS needs to go. Wait it out much longer and they have a total victory.


25 posted on 11/22/2018 11:18:30 AM PST by DrDude (The Plan- No Plan! No Plan going forward either.)
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To: dennisw

The UK and EUROPE are involved in Spygate up to their collective armpits.

And now Trump has them by their *****.


26 posted on 11/22/2018 11:20:41 AM PST by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: dennisw

It might prove to be interesting if Israeli spooks would slip Assange out of London and into MOSAD hands.


27 posted on 11/22/2018 11:23:24 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Brits should have thought about the potential consequences BEFORE they engaged in this kind of surveillance. Trump needs to put America First and expose this skulduggery regardless of who did it.


28 posted on 11/22/2018 11:30:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Steely Tom

Precisely right. Its classified to protect THEM.


29 posted on 11/22/2018 11:31:08 AM PST by Starboard
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To: dennisw

We know that under Obama the NSA was spying on Merkle.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-spying-on-germany-unacceptable-says-merkel-1405174452

and under Brennan the CIA spied on multiple US Senators. https://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/politics/cia-spying-senate-apologize/index.html

They were very active in influencing elections for decades, most recently the Israeli elections.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-us-intervention-foreign-elections-20161213-story.html

All the collaborators should be exposed.


30 posted on 11/22/2018 11:33:35 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: dennisw

Sounds like both the CIA and MI6 were marshalling classified info in the effort to influence the 2016 election.


31 posted on 11/22/2018 11:38:01 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: dennisw

All they have to do is just publicly admit that Obama and Clinton used foreign assets to spy on Trump. Then they can keep their methods secret.


32 posted on 11/22/2018 11:38:34 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: dennisw

The fact that MI6 was involved seems to point the finger at the CIA rather than the FBI.


33 posted on 11/22/2018 11:39:30 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: dennisw
Brittan does have something to hide. Their love for Obama and Clinton cause MI-6 to conspire with the corrupt US intelligence agencies in spying on a US Presidential campaign. While some are horrified that “Russia” paid for a few Face Book and Twitter advertisements, the UK colluded with democratic party operatives to try to change the US Presidential election.

Take a close look at the Australian High Commissioners role in the FBI FISA application and the MI-6 role in working with Democratic Party Fusion Research on the Steele document.

The UK interfered with a US Presidential election in a far more serious way than Russia ever would dream of doing.

34 posted on 11/22/2018 11:39:40 AM PST by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks dennisw. And now you know why the Partisan Media Shills (including online trolls) and their talking points source, the DNC, are making such a stink about the jihadist Jamal Khashoggi.

35 posted on 11/22/2018 11:46:40 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: dennisw

No surprise. Brit government wants him to crash and burn.


36 posted on 11/22/2018 11:46:43 AM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: dennisw
There ain't no sources and the methods are straight out of an introductory Creative Writing course.

Declassify every bit of it without a single redaction.

JMHo

37 posted on 11/22/2018 11:47:06 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: dennisw
British spy chiefs have “genuine concern” about sources being exposed if classified parts of the wiretap request were made public

Yeah. "Sources" like Obama, Brennan, Lynch, Clapper, Comey, Hillary, Huma, Bill, the Ohrs, Podesta, Rice, Powers, Rhodes, Baker, etc. etc.

You know, the entire treasonous, criminal gang...

38 posted on 11/22/2018 12:07:47 PM PST by Gritty (Progressives think that power should only be in expert hands - their own ... Angelo Codevilla)
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To: Brilliant

I have been firmly convinced the scumbag Brennan was up to his neck in it.


39 posted on 11/22/2018 12:12:48 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: dennisw

My anonymous source says that GCHQ was cut off from the NSA feed on August 30, 2018. Germans, too. We also “know” the cast of bad-acting characters from the UK and Australia. Maybe there are some higher-ups who thought they had “plausible deniability” and really don’t.


40 posted on 11/22/2018 12:21:05 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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