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To: jmacusa
I read your post an you gave an answer is the South would never have freed the slaves.

I said no such thing. (Though to be fair I’m not entirely sure what you’re asserting here...) To suggest the CSA would have never freed the slaves betrays deep ignorance of world history.

They didn’t go to war to see the end of slavery and the profits it’s labor bought to the South.

Fine, but history proves it wouldn’t have continued to be profitable. Brazil abolished slavery when it became cheaper to employ European immigrants instead. The CSA undoubtedly would have done the same.

I didn’t insult you.

Could have fooled me, though I wasn’t offended... your use of the term “Lost Causer” doesn’t make it sound as though it’s a good thing; you do frame it in the form of an personal insult—literally an ad hominem argument—and you shouldn’t do that if you really want your argument to be taken seriously. To be fair to you, some quick Googling about it does show that my feelings about the Late Unpleasantness are close enough to theirs that you could suggest I’m at least sympathetic to them.

I simply and prosaically said your argument is false. I’ve been on this web site for years refuting people who have your convoluted arguments.

You do your position no favors, because you fail to prove what you assert. I was serious when I said your argument is based on a half-truth because it is oversimplified, and I’ve not even been the only one in this thread to do so.

When it comes to slavery being the major cause and secession to protect slavery being the proximate cause of the war, I agree with you. When it comes to slavery being evil, I agree with you. However, I cannot agree that it was the sole cause of the war. Very little in human life is so black-and-white—history and the figures in it make up a complex painting done in shades of gray.

126 posted on 11/20/2018 11:07:34 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: GCC Catholic

You can continue to try and make your opinions into facts but it ins’t going to work. The South violently seceded from the Union to preserve slavery. It then proceed to seize Federal installations and culminated with the attack on Ft. Sumter. All you revisionism isn’t go to change that fact. Bottom line, unalterable historical fact is the South started a war and lost.


160 posted on 11/21/2018 7:22:16 AM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: GCC Catholic

“When it comes to slavery being evil, I agree with you.”

I’m always curious whether that makes George Washington and a lot of other Founders evil. And since London issued two emancipation proclamations during the Revolution whether the wrong side won, judging by 1860 Republican standards. Maybe doubly so, since the Revolution was a war of secession from the United Kingdom and Lincoln’s argument against that was the same as George III.


233 posted on 11/21/2018 11:33:31 AM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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