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Architect of bin Laden raid: Trump 'threatens the Constitution' when he attacks the media
CNN Politics ^ | Mon November 19, 2018 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/19/2018 12:36:46 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

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In my response, I cited some four or five relevant pieces of government-vetted evidence related to the Fuddy incident.

By contrast, you cited something only partially mentioned in the media and then by only one person, that person being a convicted, serial rapist. His claim supposedly took place only long after he had departed the area where Fuddy had been and after he claimed to swim a half mile toward shore. (That also was a lie, as the plane came to rest only 234 yards from shore.)

You then elaborated on the videographer's claim to say a tiger shark circled them. That's not in any media report generally known or that I've seen. (I and my research partner wrote a 415-page, full-color book (The Fuddy Hoax) about the incident.) If you have more information about your claims in that regard, I very much welcome that you bring that forth, including citation(s).)

What you call "her body" was seen and touched by a USCG swimmer yet not deemed worthy to be hoisted into his helicopter. There's only one circumstance that his protocol allows him to do that. That circumstance is if the object of his rescue is obviously already dead (decapitation, incineration, heart, lungs, brain or liver separation or those for whom rigor mortis or lividity is present).

A mere three minutes after Swimmer #1 checked "Fuddy", a Hawai'i television station's website announced that someone had died in the incident without stating who the person was.

Forty minutes after USCG Rescue Swimmer #1 left her for dead, a second Swimmer (#2) hoisted "the body" onto his Dolphin helicopter and as the craft was returning to the airport, "her" condition was deemed "CRITIAL" (sic). That is, someone implicitly claimed to have detected that she was still alive. That would seem to indicate Swimmer #1 was grossly negligent, but I think otherwise. I think the deeming of criticality was probably something the crew was told to say, just so--according to plan--Fuddy could shortly be pronounced dead by the pilot.

There were six serial changes to Fuddy's cause of death. A coroner and Medical examiner differed in their assessment (as of the end of the autopsy, though they ultimately agreed). Nowhere did any event-related official state "heart attack" as her cause of death (though you did).

61 posted on 11/20/2018 8:42:55 AM PST by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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Sir or madame ; I do not wish to argue with you about a subject you are well studied in . As for myself I am a long term Hawaii resident and total news hound . At the time of the crash I was entirely aware of , informed about and tracking on the Obama birth cert issue and the tie in to Gov. Lingle (R) , Fuddy’s role in the b/c cover-up shibai , etc. As a lot of Tea Party patriots here were . All my info and that which I casually mentioned here the other day , were derived for local Hawaii news reports that came out on the day of the crash and in the days following . To include suspected ‘heart attack’ and visible sharks in the water , Norther shore Molokai is a VERY sharky place . This is why , long ago , they chose to locate the leper colony there ; people were unable to escape easily by sea . It was my (joking) surmise that Fuddy had her (supposed) heart attack was caused by the knowledge that big tigers were sliding by ,just under the surface ( I’d have a heart attack too!) Sharks were not known to play any role in Fuddy’s demise that I am aware of . It was mentioned here locally that big sharks were seen from the chopper . I forget if that was print news or broadcast news ( local Hawaii network news which I rarely tune in to ) Doing a quick search on ‘Fuddy’ just now showed me that much of the news reports that long ago are no longer archived . Uh oh! Yet more evidence of deep conspiracy ! Anyway , sorry to rile your issue . This is the last I will write on this matter . Good luck !


62 posted on 11/20/2018 1:55:41 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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It isn’t just McRaven. McChrystal and others piled on President Trump yesterday.

I really wish POTUS would smack back with some facts regarding these dirtbag ticket punching careerists. Not one Obama General or Admiral resigned after the kenyan’s ROE KILLED many of THEIR soldiers/sailors/marines/airmen. Those All American boys and girls came home to their families in body bags thanks to Obama. We can see how much Obama’s officers care about the military. Not at all.


63 posted on 11/20/2018 2:01:20 PM PST by lodi90
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What in the world gets into the minds of these mil types , that they lose their political senses and become Koolaide drinking Obama/Hillary loving dipshits and morons ?

Ever electing that man , Obama , was one of the most serious mistakes that American people were ever allowed to stupidly make. We are STILL paying for that huge error . And we still have to listen to his stupid sycophants chirp their asses off .


64 posted on 11/20/2018 2:06:45 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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