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Retired firefighter who fired shotgun at black teen asking for directions gets up to 10 years
NBC ^ | Nov. 13, 2018 | Minyvonne Burke

Posted on 11/13/2018 10:59:09 AM PST by yesthatjallen

A white retired firefighter in Michigan found guilty of firing a shotgun from his porch at a black teenager who knocked on his front door because he was lost was sentenced Tuesday to four to 10 years in prison.

Jeffrey Zeigler, dressed in a grey jumpsuit with his hands shackled in front of him, appeared in an Oakland County courtroom where a judge sentenced him to two to 10 years for one count of assault with intent to do great bodily harm and two years for one count of felony firearm. He was convicted on Oct. 12.

The sentences will be consecutive, meaning Zeigler will serve at least two years for the assault count and another two years for the firearm count, the judge said.

Zeigler, 53, was seen on home surveillance video around 8:20 a.m. ET on April 12 shooting at Brennan Walker as the teen fled down the street. Walker told police that he had missed his school bus that morning and got lost as he was walking through Rochester Hills.

Walker, 14, said he went to Zeigler's home to ask for directions to Rochester High School, where he is a freshman.

"I knocked on the door, stepped back, knocked, stepped back, and then a lady came downstairs yelling at me," he told NBC-affiliate WDIV in April.

Walker said Zeigler's wife picked up the phone to call police, reporting that “a black male was trying to break into her house.”

Ziegler, a retired Detroit firefighter, grabbed his shotgun and chased after Walker, firing one round as the teen fled.

"I was running away ... I was trying to run away faster and I heard a gunshot," Walker said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: assaultwithfirearm; attemptedmurder; backpackburglar; banglist; detroit; felony; felonyfirearm; guns; hatecrime; idiotwithshotgun; michigan; racism; rkba
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To: Hot Tabasco

You can’t see the kid in the picture when the shot goes off.


81 posted on 11/13/2018 1:32:29 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: yesthatjallen

What’s the felony firearm charge? Is that using a firearm in a felony?


82 posted on 11/13/2018 1:32:31 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Shotgun pellets lose effective velocity within a relatively short distance. Shoot into the air, and by the time they come down they are pretty much harmless

Birdshot, yes. Buckshot or slugs, though...absolutely not.

And to the larger point, you should never shoot warning shots.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/10/john-boch/personal-defense-tip-just-say-no-to-warning-shots/warning-shot-770/

83 posted on 11/13/2018 1:32:38 PM PST by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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To: yesthatjallen

The video shows night and day this guy (the convicted) is guilty as sin... He even lied to the police when he told them the gun went off when he fell...

This guy deserves to go to prison... this is the kind of buffoon that makes all gun owners look bad.


84 posted on 11/13/2018 1:32:58 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Hot Tabasco

Maybe you’d be better as a democrat.


85 posted on 11/13/2018 1:33:45 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: conservative98

This happened near where I live and that’s pretty much the way I see it, from what I’ve read and seen in the local news. The wife believed he was casing the home.


86 posted on 11/13/2018 1:33:50 PM PST by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose.)
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To: Uber-Eng
but it was definitely that - a BAD decision to be lighting off a shotgun in a suburban neighborhood like that with a kid running away.

Four to ten felony bad?

87 posted on 11/13/2018 1:34:11 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: The Toll

And anyone who watched the video of this guy and thinks what he did was legal and ethical, isn’t just gullible but downright stupid.

This guy deserves to go to jail, he knew he effed up, and lied to the police about his actions... This is the kind of fool that gives all gun owners a bad name.


88 posted on 11/13/2018 1:34:14 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Uber-Eng

I can’t argue on the homeowners actions. It was a bad shoot. Not one that I would have even considered. However, if you think this kid missed his bus and didn’t know which way to get to school and he was just knocking on doors for a little help. You are wrong.


89 posted on 11/13/2018 1:34:38 PM PST by The Toll
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yep, ever ounce of 4-10. Hope this fool gets the max... Tired of stupid idiots with guns making everyone else look bad.

This guy absolutely deserves to have the book thrown at him.


90 posted on 11/13/2018 1:35:14 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Blue Jays
If he was so fearful he should have remained behind his locked doors, with his shotgun, and immediately called 9-1-1.

Another wannabe democrat

91 posted on 11/13/2018 1:35:52 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: HamiltonJay

I agree. This is not how you react to someone casing your house.


92 posted on 11/13/2018 1:36:52 PM PST by The Toll
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To: HamiltonJay
This guy deserves to go to prison... this is the kind of buffoon that makes all gun owners look bad.

I guess walking on the grass ought to be good for 3 to 5 in prison where you're from.

Didn't hurt anybody, but let's ruin his life? Doesn't seem right to me.

93 posted on 11/13/2018 1:37:23 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: stylin19a

No apology necessary, FRiend. :)


94 posted on 11/13/2018 1:37:56 PM PST by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: HamiltonJay

Oh don’t waste your time pointing out the facts... every year or so we get a case like this, or worse, where some moron with a gun does something insanely stupid and gets prosecuted for it...

And every time, when that moron gets his deserved punishment, all the gun rights trolls show up trying to argue the guy did nothing wrong.

This guy was a fool, and deserves every ounce of his punishment.

Gun rights advocates need to realize, some people with guns do STUPID and illegal things, and deserve the punishment they get.

This guy (the defendant), and people like him, give every responsible gun owner a bad name.


95 posted on 11/13/2018 1:38:49 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: DiogenesLamp

Go watch the video... He’s no victim. He’s a criminal, and got what he deserved.

He lied to the police, telling them Oh I fell and the gun went off, I didn’t mean to shoot at him...

This man deserves his punishment, and got it.


96 posted on 11/13/2018 1:41:21 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
You are quite cavalier about taking away a significant chunk of someone's life and denying them their civil rights for the rest of their life, all for a big nothing in terms of real injury.

Your position does not strike me as one which should be taken seriously.

97 posted on 11/13/2018 1:41:48 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Simon Green
I doubt he used a slug. Might have used buckshot, but more likely birdshot.

I don't think any of it matters because no one got hit.

98 posted on 11/13/2018 1:42:56 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

His civil rights?

What rights are you claiming he had violated? He was given due process and convicted in a court of law. Please tell me what rights you think this guy had violated, when he decided he was going to shoot at another human being who posed no threat to him?

Your argument is beyond foolish. The guy knows he broke the law, which is why he LIED to the police, and said, oh mr officer, I fell and the gun went off... Not the truth that he took aim and fired...

This guy is no victim, he’s a criminal, and people like him give responsible gun owners a bad name.


99 posted on 11/13/2018 1:45:08 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
This guy was a fool, and deserves every ounce of his punishment.

And now we know why they hanged witches in Salem.

100 posted on 11/13/2018 1:45:12 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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