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1 posted on 11/12/2018 9:59:12 AM PST by reaganaut1
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I am really starting to envy these people. I, too, am beginning to wish there was a better country to which I could go.


2 posted on 11/12/2018 10:02:34 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Automatic birth citizenship - irrespective of the citizenship of the parents. What a crazy and destructive idea.


3 posted on 11/12/2018 10:03:33 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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Couldn’t read the rest since it’s behind their paywall but I gather WSJ thinks birthright citizenship for non-citizen visitors and illegal aliens is a constituitional right granted by the 14th amendment. This is not clear at all and needs to be tested by an executive order from President Donald J. Trump.


5 posted on 11/12/2018 10:06:01 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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I have a colleague who came in a recent wave of refugees... while most of his compatriots were struggling with lawyers and all of that to legalize themselves, he simply pulled his blue passport out of the safety deposit box and came through the front door. His parents had had the foresight to fly to the US when she was about to give birth. He never used his US citizenship until the bad times came, but it had been there as an insurance policy all his life.


8 posted on 11/12/2018 10:29:06 AM PST by marron
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Its a scam of the highest order, which is also supporting criminals.

Common in NY, LA and SF are Chinese “birthing centers.” Expectant mothers pay up to $80,000 cash to live in an apartment complex with other expecting mothers. The woman gives birth there, and the “birthing center” has a lawyer fill out paperwork to get the baby a US passport. These places have limited medical facilities (to skirt legal approvals or FDA requirements) so if there is a problem - the Chinese mother is sent to the public hospital, where of course she is treated, no questions asked. Of course, neither the “birthing center” or the mother pay any bills which come later.


10 posted on 11/12/2018 10:40:22 AM PST by PGR88
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Regarding constitutional ways to curb birth tourism, Thomas Jefferson had written the following generalization.
"The true key for the construction of everything doubtful in a law is the intention of the law-makers [emphasis added] . This is most safely gathered from the words, but may be sought also in extraneous circumstances provided they do not contradict the express words of the law." --Thomas Jefferson to Albert Gallatin, 1808.

That being noted, the congressional record shows that the constitutional lawmaker who pushed for the inclusion of the jurisdiction clause in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, Sen. Jacob Howard, had clarified exceptions (yes, there's common sense exceptions) to the jurisdiction clause as follows.

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens [emphasis added], who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country." A Century of Lawmaking for a New Nation: U.S. Congressional Documents and Debates, 1774 - 1875 Congressional Globe, Senate, 39th Congress, 1st Session Page 2890 of 3840

The bottom line concerning Democratic politically correct birth tourism is this imo. As a consequence of having no vision for the future like Pres. Trump does, post-17th Amendment ratification Democrats have unthinkingly and unconscionably promoted and funded the vote-winning murder of unborn children, children that would otherwise probably have grown up to be Democratic voters.

But one consequence of doing so is this. Lawless Democrats have promoted the murder of so many children in fact, shooting both feet off, that they are now scrambling to unlawfully register as a Democratic voter everybody who has ever lived in an effort to try to restore their voter pool.

11 posted on 11/12/2018 10:56:39 AM PST by Amendment10
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Nothing requires birthright citizenship. Period. We need to end it.


12 posted on 11/12/2018 11:43:33 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Children born to US Military in foreign countries on US Military bases have a B.C. from that country, and from American Consulate. Then they have a US Passport at a few days old. My Step Daughter had both Japanese and American Disconsolate B.C.’s. At 18 she had to declare the country of choice. Doesn’t really make them a citizen of that country, just that they were born there.


13 posted on 11/12/2018 11:55:39 AM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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The Republic was going well for a few generations.


15 posted on 11/12/2018 12:59:11 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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