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PETER HITCHENS: Soldiers? No, Brtiain lost 700,000 poets, teachers, inventors...and fathers
DailyMail.com ^ | 11/10/2018 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 11/10/2018 6:39:56 PM PST by Nextrush

What do you think about during the two minutes silence? I used to think of men at war, and hear in my head the shouts and the clash of arms. Now I see a narrow street of small houses at dusk. A young man in army uniform is embracing his wife and little children in a lighted doorway. He will not return.

I recently learned that, on the first day of commemoration, in 1919, the silence was often far from silent. In many places, when the traffic and the factories stopped, the sound of uncontrollable weeping could be heard in many towns.

Nearly three quarters of a million young men had died far away... they'd had no funerals. For the first time, the bereaved had an opportunity to grieve properly.

This commemoration is above all about the First World War......

I knew. when I first learned about it, that the 1914 war was a chasm between us and another world.

I rather like the look of the world that had been lost-calmer, slower, more solid than ours. I had a feeling we were now a smaller people than we had been.....

...I am so often told that those who fought in 1914 did so for our freedom, that we are far less free as a people, from all kinds of government interference, than we were before the war. It was 1914 that began the era of heavy taxation, surveillance, regulation and general snooping and bureaucracy which now stifle us.

It was also 1914 that swept away the restrained and quiet world of yesterday, and the great, stuffy cumbersome empires of Austria, Germany and Russia, replacing them with the slick murderous modern empires of the Nazis and the Bolsheviks. Was this progress? Give me the Kaiser and the Tsar, any day.....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: DuncanWaring

Yes.


21 posted on 11/10/2018 8:55:32 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: grumpygresh

And, they’re replacing them with....


22 posted on 11/10/2018 8:57:43 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

The US Civil War with up 650,000 to 850,000 (based on more recent historical findings) deaths and population of 31,000,000 was a far more calamitous event. The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty.


23 posted on 11/10/2018 9:32:21 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty.

Yes it was.

24 posted on 11/10/2018 9:33:39 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Nextrush
"Give me the Kaiser and the Tsar, any day....."

No thanks. I like the system in the U.S.A. and what remains of the culture. And as for those men, they were indeed soldiers.


25 posted on 11/10/2018 9:38:21 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Nextrush

All this hooey to commemorate the beginning of a 21 year armistice to a war that only ended December 31, 1991, when the Soviet Union ceased to exist.


26 posted on 11/10/2018 9:41:19 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (GOP- 65 House and 12 Senate seat pickups in November)
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To: Nextrush

This includes insightful information about World War 1 (covers Prussia, World War 1 and World War 2). The history of the Huns should be learned in light of the history of the Prussians and Nazis, too.

HERE IS GERMANY 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYaRCV0a26s


27 posted on 11/10/2018 9:47:42 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: grumpygresh

WW1 was a drop in the bucket of self-murder....abortion. Began with 1931 contraception made possible by WW1 error.


28 posted on 11/10/2018 9:48:25 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: Nextrush
This one has a clearer picture.

Here is Germany May 8 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la6J7yRnEus



29 posted on 11/10/2018 9:51:41 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I do believe that WWI was the beginning of the end of civilization. A true historic turning point. I don't think Europe has recovered, or will ever recover. On every level --- political, social, physical, emotional, cultural, spiritual --- it was smashed. WWII came roaring on its heels like an opportunistic disease taking down an already wretched, weakened sufferer.

Even the post -WWII recovery was blighted with signs of moral and spiritual death.

And that is still with us, with a vengeance.


Yep. Exactly.
30 posted on 11/10/2018 10:09:36 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
"WW1 was a drop in the bucket of self-murder....abortion. Began with 1931 contraception made possible by WW1 error."

Early Women’s Rights Activists Wanted Much More than Suffrage
History.com
BY REBECCA EDWARDS
MAR 2, 2018
Charles Knowlton’s Fruits of Philosophy, the first American birth-control manual, went through dozens of editions after its publication in 1832. Among married couples in the Northeast and parts of the Midwest, abortion became so widely practiced that doctors estimated one in three pregnancies was ending in abortion, obtained through both surgeries and mail-order abortifacient drugs. Lecturers gave talks on family limitation; as April Haynes shows in her book Riotous Flesh, women in Northeastern towns and cities formed “physiological societies” to share information about sexuality, pregnancy and childbirth (though their curriculum included stern warnings about the dangers of masturbation). Many women viewed this as part of their broader campaign for women’s rights.

Two events in the 1870s sharply curtailed such open conversations. First, suffrage activists like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton made a temporary but ill-fated alliance with glamorous “free love” advocate Victoria Woodhull during her moment of national celebrity in the 1870s. Stanton, in particular, was smitten by Woodhull’s bold libertarian attack on marriage. “Governments,” Woodhull declared, “might just as well assume to determine how people shall exercise their right to think…as to assume to determine that they shall not love, or how they may love, or that they shall love.” She topped this with a ringing declaration of her own sexual freedom: “Yes, I am a Free Lover. I have an inalienable, constitutional and natural right to love whom I may… ; to change that love every day if I please, and…neither you nor any law you can frame have any right to interfere.”


31 posted on 11/10/2018 10:30:28 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


32 posted on 11/10/2018 10:35:13 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Nextrush

bflr


33 posted on 11/10/2018 10:35:30 PM PST by TChad
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To: Pride in the USA

Very interesting article and superb comments to this point, worth reading them all. This reminds me of what originally drew me to FR so many years ago: informed, well-written opinions without stupid memes, inappropriate jokes, foul language and rampant illiteracy. As a history enthusiast, you might find this of interest as well.


34 posted on 11/10/2018 11:30:58 PM PST by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: Nextrush

Great article, it sums up the tragedy of the Firet World War.


35 posted on 11/11/2018 2:13:58 AM PST by WMarshal (The Pleasant American)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty."

WW I gave us the freedom stealing income tax and WW II gifted Americans with world-wide taxation and true slavery, Americans pay US income tax no matter where you live. The feral government thinks that they own us.

36 posted on 11/11/2018 2:21:33 AM PST by WMarshal (The Pleasant American)
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To: Nextrush

Good article


37 posted on 11/11/2018 3:15:28 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Steely Tom

What rough beast slouches toward Bethlehem, waiting to be born?


38 posted on 11/11/2018 3:19:32 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: grumpygresh

I read an article recently which estimated that because of all the deaths France suffered, there were 300,000 fewer possible soldiers born to defend them against Germany. Of course, as stated elsewhere in this thread, if there hadn’t been a WW I, there wouldn’t have been a WW II, so in a sense it’s a moot point.


39 posted on 11/11/2018 4:20:45 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood; shanover

I would also highly recommend a book called “1913”, about the state of the world in all of its major capitals just before the war. The Great War was an unimaginable catastrophe that should never have happened, and destroyed what should have been major advances in peace, prosperity and freedom around the world.


40 posted on 11/11/2018 4:23:14 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Break it off in 'em, Brett. They've earned it, and you've earned it.)
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