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To: RedMonqey

So I’m reading all kinds of different things but from the AZ SOS it shows McSally down about 9500. So how many votes out there? Where are they from? Are these dem or Rep. areas? Please someone with AZ knowledge respond.


412 posted on 11/08/2018 7:49:41 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: willk; stephenjohnbanker

I remember an article that said they were now counting “late early” ballots. Sounds like Monty Python to me.


414 posted on 11/08/2018 7:52:52 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: willk

It will be days before they finish counting the ballots. News site says the election count is updated daily at 5 pm.


415 posted on 11/08/2018 7:53:36 PM PST by Boomer (Don't mistake my gentle nature for weakness.)
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To: willk

“So I’m reading all kinds of different things but from the AZ SOS it shows McSally down about 9500. So how many votes out there? Where are they from? Are these dem or Rep. areas? Please someone with AZ knowledge respond.”

There should be about 200,000 ballots that still need to be counted according to my calculation.

Maricopa County typically accounts for 60% of the votes in AZ. Right now the percent is about 57.2% as of 9:10 MST (has been that way since about 6 pm).

If the uncounted ballots counted as first in, last out, McSally has a good chance as Republican ballots had a big lead over Dems in Maricopa County (I was checking the prior week). If not, we are screwed.

BTW I live in Yavapai County, not Maricopa.


425 posted on 11/08/2018 8:17:55 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: willk

OK, here’s the deal. We live in AZ at this time of year. As far as I know, there are roughly 400,000 ballots left to be counted from all over the state. These are early (absentee) ballots that were not mailed in but were dropped off on election day at a polling place. They can’t be counted fast by machines the way regular ballots cast at the polls are counted.

It’s important to understand that about 65% of AZ’s population lives in the Phoenix metro area, which is entirely inside Maricopa County. A big chunk of the remaining population lives in the Tucson area, inside Pima County. So those two counties have the vast majority of votes. Maricopa County generally votes slightly on the Republican side overall. Pima County holds the University of Arizona and is more liberal and votes center-left. But the rest of the state, except for the Flagstaff area and the Indian reservations (not many votes there) is very conservative. In fact, almost half of President Trump’s margin of victory was from Mohave County alone, up in Northwest AZ.

As far as where the remaining votes are from, there’s no way to know, except that obviously they’re mainly from Maricopa and Pima counties. There are military votes also yet to be counted from overseas. Yes, it’s also true that hundreds of thousands of votes haven’t been counted in all the other state-wide races for governor and SOS, etc. The calls made in favor of Gov. Ducey to be re-elected, and for other people to win House seats, are all based on historical patterns in the early ballots that are dropped off on election day. It’s theoretically possible that Ducey could still lose after all the early ballots are counted, but the probability of that happening based on history is effectively zero, so they declared him the winner on election night.

It’s only the close races where the counting of these early ballots can change the winner. So that’s basically the deal with the vote counting. The SOS doesn’t disclose the location of the early votes that have been counted and not counted. The percentages counted that you see on the internet are usually the percentage of precincts that have reported on election night. Usually it’s not the percentage of all ballots that have been counted. I’ve only see one website that estimates the total percentage counted.

So McSally still has a reasonable chance to win. AZ isn’t riddled with blatant fraud like Florida, but still the GOP vote watchers have to keep their eyes open for anything and everything in the next two weeks until this election is over.


435 posted on 11/08/2018 8:38:54 PM PST by socialism_stinX (Not only does socialism stink, but when given enough time it wrecks any national economy.)
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