Psychiatrist, Heal Thyself {Note: this is sort of about Trump}

City Journal ^ | November 6, 2018 | Theodore Dalrymple

[Salman]

The November edition of the British Journal of Psychiatry published an exchange of views between an American psychologist, John Gartner, and a British psychiatrist, Alex Langford, on the question of whether it is ethical for a psychiatrist to diagnose a public figure whom he has not personally examined. There are no prizes for guessing which public figure provoked the debate: and there would have been no such debate had Hillary Clinton won the last presidential election, just as there was no such debate after Barack Obama’s victories—though, in fact, practically no one’s personality is beyond the reach or remit of the Fifth Edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association.

Gartner argues that it is not only permissible for psychiatrists to diagnose President Trump, but also obligatory for them to do so, and that furthermore they should agitate for his removal from office on psychiatric or psychological grounds. “We live in a pre-fascist society,” explains the psychologist. “If you consider silence in the face of rising fascism to be unethical, then the only way to adhere to the A[merican] P[sychatric] A[ssociation] ethics [which states that psychiatrists should not diagnose public figures whom they have not personal examined] is to behave unethically . . . The German Psychiatric Association said nothing during the rise of Hitler. Should they be our moral role models? As a Jew, I was raised on the mantra ‘Never again,’ which means that it is a terrible sin to be silent in the face of rising fascism . . . In an effort to avoid ‘embarrassing the profession’ the APA has stained it with eternal shame.”

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[Salman]

Note: These sort of shenanigans (uncontroversially) used to be considered highly unethical.

[the OlLine Rebel]

The fascist society has LONG been here, created by you “Democrats” (socialists).

If fascism means government regulation up the gumpstump of people’s property, then yes, we ARE fascist.

[Impala64ssa]

Show me a psychiatrist and I’ll show you someone with more issues than all the newsstands in Times Square, Grand Central, JFK, O Hare, LAX, and Heathrow combined. The dirty little secret, many people who major in psych or are in the field are there to try and figure why they themselves are so screwed up in the head.

[Salman]

Incidentally it is not true that

"The German Psychiatric Association said nothing during the rise of Hitler."

Rather (after purging all the Jews) they were enthusiastically for it, including Jung who was in Switzerland (where he could have just stayed out of it).

[Ikeon]

The dirty little secret, many people who major in psych or are in the field are there to try and figure why they themselves are so screwed up in the head. Yep, not all but Ill bet its at least 2 out of 3