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13 posted on 11/01/2018 9:49:45 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

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16 posted on 11/01/2018 9:54:36 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

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17 posted on 11/01/2018 9:55:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)

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