Posted on 10/29/2018 9:10:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
My Honduran-born wife uses Facebook to keep in touch with her family in Honduras. Many posts are her thoughts on the topic of the day, and immigration and politics are certainly represented in what she posts. A little about my wife, she served as an interviewer inside of a US Consulate in Latin America, and is thoroughly familiar with immigration law, the process, and the plight of those wishing to visit or immigrate to the US. She is 100% against illegal immigration. Why? Among other things, she also served as a finance officer of a hospital in Northern Virginia, and saw it change hands as a result of immigrants using the Emergency Room as their primary care, and the draining of the charitable foundations that are typically put aside for Americans that cannot pay. My wife gets it. She knows where blessing comes from: American hearts and their taxes.
Naturally, her family responds to the posts and I thought it might be informative to the readership to know the mind of an average middle class family from Honduras. Note that in the past 20 years, my wife and I paid for medical school, law school, and refrigeration vocational-tech school.
A. Here is a summation of the responses from various family members, I distilled them into these main ideas:
- 1. Her family is upset that she is not "in solidarity" with them, and my wife "forgot where she came from."
- 2. They assert the migrants just want to work and to flee the gang violence.
- 3. Hondurans cannot change their government-- it's too corrupt, so the US is their only hope..
- 4. They generally had no concept of how Americans thought about this-- they are thinking it's POTUS and a minority. (Comment- This is courtesy of the leftist press there as well.)
- 5. From their point of view, everyone knows friends or family members here, and know they live a life substantially better than they will ever have. So what has changed to cause a border confrontation?
(Hint: DJT's politics)
B. Here are implications that were not considered from their arguments:
- 1. Law breaking. The end justifies the mean, situational ethics.
- 2. No understanding of the concept of taxes (most Central Americans are not taxed- a Value Added Tax (VAT) is added onto most sales, nor the financial burden Americans have (welfare, medical, children's schools, etc) shouldered.
- 3. No respect for what Americans have built, and what was sacrificed. They want to partake because being poor sucks.
C. How are illegals able to stay (everyone knows this from the immigrant side, it's the Americans that need education):
There are no consequences.
No government form of ID is required to get housing.
No one comes after an over-stayed visa.
Access to school is free.
Saturation of pro-immigrant lawyers in the US.
D. Conclusion: The time has come to where migrants want your stuff, and there is nothing detering them. They have abandoned being citizens of their own countries. They are incapable of governing themselves, and being governed. They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value. Their system doesn't produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now.
Ah yeah, Sessions will certainly do something now that he’s fired. Sessions ain’t doing shit.
My Country has borders and those borders should be protected.
That’s not what any of the majority of immigrants want to do.Not just Mexico and Central and South America.
All new immigrants, legal and illegal, get the free stuff. And we pay for it.
Oh please.
Jamaicans are happy too. Punta Canans are happy. Hell, Irish and Italians are happy people too.
There is “two” of everything, even here.
The naivete of intelligent people astounds me.
I’ve been to other places too. I thank God every day my grandparents came here from beautiful Ireland and Italy and my parents had me and I’m an American Citizen.
As for the rest of your post claiming the people are oh so happy and aren’t jealous and just love their lives...please. The poverty in those places is astronomical compared to here. They are poor while our poor don’t have to be poor.
There are always “two places” and tourists only really experience the better of the places.
The naivete on this forum will always astound me.
We offer solutions. We get hate. So there’s that.
Put many bullets in that Caravan and I see lots of support.
We’re being INVADED.
It’s not going to be solved or resolved by giving in either.
We can’t change anything when all of our institutions promote socialism. What about this can’t you people understand?
It’s “emotional” on our side but “logical” on the other side.
Yeah that always works.
Thank you. Finally. It’s always been about terms. The winning side and the losing side.
LMAO. Good one.
Seriously, are you a troll?
Well ‘Identfying as Catholic’ means very little if you’re intentions, clearly known, are coming here to break our laws. Further there are a lot of people who claim to be catholic but certainly aren’t Christians just as there are in many denominations as well. So claiming the title of any denomination is not enough.
As for what I think or agree with or not...well it’s sufficient enough for you to have responded.
Thank you!
I wonder why I continue to read this board. You are one of the reasons.
Sessions is history..end of that story.
Surprising.
Yes.
Keep telling these naive, bleeding hearts that. Won’t do much good but it needs to be said.
All the stolen and not stolen elections here should wake people up but it won’t. All those happy people in the Islands and all.
If your family is here illegally it is my business since I pay for them. Monetarily and politically. And since you publically posted about it, you made it all our business.
And you are wrong. Can’t wait til nopardons schools you.
Thank you. I knew you’d set it right.
You know this how?
The “small” differences matter.
We must crush legal (certain countries) and illegal immigration. And I don’t give a damn about sob stories.
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