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'They Served the Cheka' Billboards in Russia Honor Stalin's Executioners
RFE/RL ^ | Oct 29, 2018 | Ilya Kosygin, Robert Coalson

Posted on 10/29/2018 2:03:20 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Reily; tet68

Thanks. Will watch some of the film now.


21 posted on 10/29/2018 11:48:44 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

To be fair, it’s kind of hard to blame him when Karl Marx, the guy who practically instigated the Russian Revolution with his crackpot theories (with there being plenty of evidence he instigated it largely so he could make a gorier remake of Robespierre’s Reign of Terror), was at least ethnically Jewish (not to mention a whole lot of the Bolsheviks, including Trotsky, were ethnically Jewish). Of course, that being said, Marx was arguably an even WORSE anti-Semite, since he denounced Jews as “money-lovers”, and strongly implied they should be either completely separated, or otherwise wiped out (in other words, Marx was arguably the guy who first asked the “Jewish Question” that Hitler’s Final Solution was meant to address).


22 posted on 10/30/2018 3:11:16 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I see this differently. I see it as Solzhenitsyn being a very talented and capable, but with few significant flaws main being that he got attached to ideologies. He entered his GULAG chamber as a full on communist thinking Stalin has done nothing wrong except for the small oversight of sending him to GULAG by mistake and mistakes happen.

He was sent to an “elite” part and was surrounded by very educated men, who admired his natural intellect and were aghast by his brainwashing.

What is often not mentioned is that he spent his evenings in GULAG using this intellect to argue against these erudite and smart men justifying all these atrocities and Stalin’s actions. He couldn’t avoid them as the chamber door was locked and there was no one to talk to, but here’s the important part: HE STAYED FANATICAL COMMIE THROUGHOUT the whole time. Mellowed down by the end I am sure, but he still stayed commie.

Only after those who survived were released and the immediate heat of an argument was gone did he start to consider the arguments he had heard and reconsidered. ONLY THEN.

He was a good enough man who then seeked up his former mentors and admitted them he had been wrong. Only after that we got GULAG Archipelago.

Then quite a bit after that he was given a new ideology and he showed bad judgement just as before ab embraced it just like he had embraced Stalinism before. The new ideology said IT WAS THE JEWS. At that time he was no longer locked in a chamber with erudite men holding him in check and that JEW thing was what he ran with until the rest of his life.

He was by all accounts a very brilliant person, but he was someone who was impressionable to dishonest manipulators and really needed erudite and smart men to hold him to reality. Something more was given in some aspects in brain and something less in others.


23 posted on 10/30/2018 3:56:43 AM PDT by Krosan
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Like I said, Solzhenitsyn sort of has a point regarding blaming the Jews for Communism, especially the Soviet-style of Communism, since a surprisingly large percentage of the Bolsheviks (including Leon Trotsky), not to mention Karl Marx himself, were ethnic Jews (note that I didn’t say they were religious Jews, just that they were ethnic Jews. All of them were atheistic, and thus obviously didn’t adhere to a religion. Well, okay, there were rumors that Karl Marx was a Satanist, but the others, no, they didn’t hold to religion at all, being militant atheists.).


24 posted on 10/30/2018 4:26:08 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Its very very grim !


25 posted on 10/30/2018 4:52:52 AM PDT by Reily
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I thought the Cheka were Lenin’s executioners.

Stalin’s executioners were the NKVD.


26 posted on 10/30/2018 4:54:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Reily
Absolutely everyone needs to see that film! You can watch it on YouTube with English subtitles.

Between that and "Idi i Smotri" (Come and See), I don't know which film is more depressing.

27 posted on 10/30/2018 4:55:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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See wiki entry on KGB for the progression of Soviet Union state security agencies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD


28 posted on 10/30/2018 5:42:46 AM PDT by Reily
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