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Trump administration trying to define transgender out of existence – report
The Manchester Guardian ^ | October 21, 2018 | Reuters

Posted on 10/21/2018 3:14:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

New York Times cites government memo
Gender would be defined at birth as only male or female

The Trump administration is attempting to strip transgender people of official recognition by creating a narrow definition of gender as being only male or female and unchangeable once determined at birth, the New York Times reported.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has undertaken an effort across several departments to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans discrimination on the basis of sex, the Times said, citing a government memo.

That definition would be as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals a person is born with, the Times reported.

Such an interpretation would reverse the expansion of transgender rights that took place under President Barack Obama.

It would also set back aspirations for tolerance and equality among the estimated 0.7% of the population that identifies as transgender. Most transgender people live with a profound sense that the gender assigned to them at birth was wrong and transition to the opposite sex. Others live a non-binary or gender-fluid life....

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gender; homosexualagenda; transgenders; trump; trumphhs; unisex
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I'm sure Jeb Bush or John Kasich would've done the same, right?
1 posted on 10/21/2018 3:14:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fake men and fake women are real.

This is the kind of idiotic insanity rampant in America.


2 posted on 10/21/2018 3:16:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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That which is real cannot be defined out of existence.


3 posted on 10/21/2018 3:23:43 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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See this is what the Left does.

They destroy traditions and norms, and when conservatives want return it back to what it was, we're immediately called names.

No one is born transgendered and they do not deserve rights they already receive as individuals under the Constitution.

4 posted on 10/21/2018 3:27:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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This is about science and equality. Title nine is all about insuring that females have as many opportunities as males do.

To do that male and female have to be clearly defined.

I’m more on the side that sex is determined by a scientific test which is actually pure science.

And Gender that can be fluid of can change but this is not based on science.


5 posted on 10/21/2018 3:31:31 PM PDT by oldenuff35
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“”creating a narrow definition of gender as being only male or female””

A narrow definition? Good grief. We’ve truly been swept over the cliff with the loonies. This change in the law will be based on “science” and watch the progressives scream - while at the same time they criticize us for not recognizing climate change science. Poor things - no wonder they’re so messed up. They don’t know what they’re supposed to believe except it won’t be what has been accepted for our entire existence. It must be changed - for some dumb reason.


6 posted on 10/21/2018 3:31:51 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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It would simplify things.

Your IDs would either say XX (”female)”,

XY (male), or

XYY (male, but perhaps a shade of difference)


7 posted on 10/21/2018 3:31:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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Mental illness shouldn’t define language.


8 posted on 10/21/2018 3:36:43 PM PDT by the_daug
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Thank God for President Trump. It is amazing that he, being steeped in media, and with so many democrat connections much of his adult life, is able to distinguish reality. It is nearly miraculous in itself. The LORD truly has raised him up. Praise be The LORD!!!


9 posted on 10/21/2018 3:41:15 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare conside. r.)
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It would also set back aspirations for tolerance and equality among the estimated 0.7% of the population that identifies as transgender.

So why should the 99.3% be inconvenienced and bend to the will of the 0.7% (and I’d guarantee that percent is inflated, it’s probably closer to Sen. Warren Indian percentages).


10 posted on 10/21/2018 3:41:32 PM PDT by Flick Lives
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(1) Lambda Legal waits until the entire process is done
(2) Sues
(3) Obama-appointed district judge puts NATIONAL BLOCK on the new rules
(4) Sessions gives a speech at Federalist society complaining about "tyrannical judges"; does nothing about it
(5) Another worthless effort for a meek Trump team
11 posted on 10/21/2018 3:46:58 PM PDT by montag813
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The courts are being remade. But this will take time.


12 posted on 10/21/2018 3:49:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Not so.

Anyway —

Libtards say there really aren’t genders - you are what you think or say you are at that point in time.

In Lib-Land sometime today or maybe tomorrow a person might decide he is a little girl, a black woman or a Cherokee Indian.
And then next week might decide he is a Chinese man.

It’s all valid in Lib-Land.

So, how can there be Transgenders if there really are no genders?


13 posted on 10/21/2018 3:59:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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Good.


14 posted on 10/21/2018 4:03:35 PM PDT by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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This action is overdue. Transgender is only removed from trans-dragon by degree, both suggesting a bit of reconstruction and some prosthesis, while the latter might also beg a fuel supply and an ignition source. While I will not interfere in the private fantasy of another, I will not be made to promote or celebrate the behavior.


15 posted on 10/21/2018 4:12:07 PM PDT by jimfree (My18 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: montag813

Did you get lost on your way to Bill Kristol’s website?


16 posted on 10/21/2018 4:21:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Just like the commie Left defined it INTO existence.


17 posted on 10/21/2018 4:37:00 PM PDT by IronJack
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Great news for women’s sports!


18 posted on 10/21/2018 5:29:00 PM PDT by keats5
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Did you get lost on your way to Bill Kristol’s website?

No, but you may have missed Sessions' recent speech bemoaning lower courts obstructing the Trump agenda...yet they obey the (unlawful) orders every single time.

19 posted on 10/21/2018 5:30:41 PM PDT by montag813
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Next thing you know, the Trump administration will be trying to define trans-species out of existence. Oh, the humanity (or inhumanity)!


20 posted on 10/21/2018 6:06:07 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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