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Dems fear party is headed to gutter from Avenatti’s sledgehammer approach
The Hill ^ | 10/15/18 | AMIE PARNES

Posted on 10/15/2018 2:28:22 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Michael Avenatti’s attacks on the Democratic establishment are creating new friction as the party debates how abrasive an approach to take against President Trump.

Avenatti, who is stoking the possibility that he could run for president, calls prominent party strategists “out of touch” and “clueless” about how to win against Trump and Republicans.

“I think they’re out of touch. I don't think they understand what’s required,” Avenatti said in an interview with The Hill on Monday.

“I think they’re clueless. We’re not living in 2012 or 2008 or 1992 anymore," he said. "You've got to engage in smash-mouth politics if you're going to beat Donald Trump.”

Democrats warn that Avenatti is dragging their party into the gutter, and they argue the Stormy Daniels attorney hurt the party’s efforts to block Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

“There's a difference between getting in the gutter and being tough, and I don’t think Michael Avenatti understands that,” Patti Solis Doyle, Democratic strategist and former campaign manager to Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign, said in an interview.

“This isn't a strategy, this is a spectacle,” she added. “And the spectacle is great for getting a lot of Twitter followers and retweets, but when push comes to shove ... what's he doing for the party?”

Democrats question Avenatti’s motives during the Kavanaugh fight.

The lawyer represented a woman named Julie Swetnick who in a public declaration said that she had witnessed Kavanaugh attending parties in the early 1980s where she said he had fondled and grabbed girls without their consent. She also alleged that at some parties, young men had lined up to “gang rape” young women who had become incapacitated from drinking.

Kavanaugh denied the allegations, and Democratic senators generally stayed away from them during the public debate over the nomination. Republicans pounced, arguing Trump’s nominee was being victimized by a smear campaign and arguing the involvement of Avenatti proved it.

A senior Democratic aide told The Hill that Avenatti was counterproductive to their efforts to stop Kavanaugh and defend Ford’s credibility.

“He f---ed it all up,” the aide said.

Avenatti—who spent the weekend headlining events for the South Carolina Democratic Party and the Horry County Party— is unapologetic for his approach.

“I’m traveling around America and people are very enthusiastic about me potentially running and my approach and my message,” he said in the interview with The Hill. “So perhaps Patti and others should venture outside the Beltway and start talking to rank and file Democrats.”

Avenatti maintains he's serious about running for president. He has been informally seeking advice from Adam Parkhomenko, an adviser to Hillary Clinton, among other Democratic operatives.

He's convinced the only way to beat Trump is to beat him at his own game.

“Democrats are not going to beat Donald Trump by engaging in wishy washy yammering ways of the past,” he said. "It’s never going to happen. The only way you’re going beat him is by hitting him twice as hard as he hits you. He is a classic bully and that’s how you deal with bullies.”

Some of Avenatti’s antics have rubbed Democrats the wrong way.

As an example, some criticized his suggestion last week that he wants to take on Donald Trump Jr. in a mixed martial arts fight for charity.

Avenatti and Solis Doyle got into it on Twitter over the weekend after Solis Doyle penned an opinion piece on CNN.com in which she said the best way for the party to win back the White House was not to employ Avenatti’s tactics.

“If you get in the gutter with Trump, no one will be able to tell the difference between the two of you,” she wrote. “A three-round mixed martial arts fight between Avenatti and Donald Trump Jr. may be a spectacle to rival one of Trump's press conferences, but really have we gone that low?"

In response, Avenatti took to Twitter: “Establishment Dems like @PattiSolisDoyle are the problem,” he wrote. “They are why we continue to get beat and why we are presently in a fight for the survival of this republic. Their weak approaches are why we lost 2000, lost 2016, never got a Garland vote, etc etc.:

Other Democrats including Lis Smith, the longtime Democratic operative who worked for former President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign also weighed in on Twitter, pushing back on Avenatti.

“…I’ve spent 15 years in the trenches knife fighting, and gosh it’s funny, I just don’t remember seeing you there,” Smith wrote. “Winning elections is about more than just talking tough on Twitter and TV.”

Some strategists say Avenatti’s tone towards “establishment Democrats” has been largely unhelpful to a splintered Democratic Party.

“If he wants to run, he should be focused on building coalitions instead of demeaning people who’ve spent their lives in public service,” said Basil Smikle, the Democratic strategist who served as an aide to Hillary Clinton. "Many of us are content to work behind the scenes and be advocates for good people and good policy."

Avenatti says that he isn’t the one picking fights with Democrats. He’s merely responding to their criticism.

“People like Patti and other should back off and stop going after me,” he continued, adding that they “see me as a threat.”

“I don't take shots at any Democrats first,” he said. “I only respond when certain Democrats attack me. If they come after me, I’m going to hit back twice as hard.”


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To: yesthatjallen

No fear! America’s government brainwashing operations in our public schools continue to pump out the Communist Manifestos required endless conveyor of liberal brainwashed minds thus giving the CPUSA Progressive run democrats a great mass of ill informed voters.

The democrat party could not exist without this K-12 pro-big-government brainwashing and without Alinsky and without the MSM [Mainly Socialist Media] as history is very unkind to their failed and often deadly ideology.


21 posted on 10/15/2018 3:00:23 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: colorado tanker

Has Ron Jeremy signed on for the not so true to life version?


22 posted on 10/15/2018 3:09:02 PM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: yesthatjallen; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; Bon mots; null and void; LucyT; Liz; GregNH; bitt
["You've got to engage in smash-mouth politics if you're going to beat Donald Trump.”]


23 posted on 10/15/2018 3:11:35 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s been in the gutter since the 60s.


24 posted on 10/15/2018 3:12:38 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: All

Avenatti was hot to trot-——had presidential ambitions, even——figured he’d have the Democrat PTB eating out of his hand.

BUT never has a plan gone south as fast as this one has.

Avenatti supposedly finding another victim with abuse assertions about Kav was so ludicrous even the all-believing Democrats shrugged it off.


25 posted on 10/15/2018 3:15:37 PM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: yesthatjallen

They’re blaming this on Avenatti? Looks self inflicted to me.


26 posted on 10/15/2018 3:16:16 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: yesthatjallen

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=139617

Shane Mekelan, R house candidate for MN-15B was assaulted at a restaurant while campaigning and suffered a concussion by a politically-motivated attacker. According to reports, law enforcement told Mekelan on Monday that they were in touch with the man responsible for the attack and that he admitted to attacking Mekeland unprovoked.

“On Friday evening, I was assaulted in Benton County. I suffered a concussion and the incident is now in the hands of law enforcement.

While I had never met my assailant, the words he yelled at me before he attacked lead me to believe his actions were politically motivated. When I chose to run for office, I expected to be politically attacked, but never physically. I weighed whether or not to share this today, but ultimately I think we all need a reminder to be civil to each other regardless of our perspectives.

Finally, thank you to those of you have reached out — my family and I are so grateful for your prayers and words of support...”


27 posted on 10/15/2018 3:17:43 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: yesthatjallen

Go Avenatti, go!


28 posted on 10/15/2018 3:17:56 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Ummmm, the Dems have been using that sledgehammer approach for decades now. How is this Avenatti’s idea?


29 posted on 10/15/2018 3:21:36 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Headed to the gutter?” LOL That’s rich. They’ve done arrived.


30 posted on 10/15/2018 3:22:52 PM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: yesthatjallen

“Democrats warn that Avenatti is dragging their party into the gutter, and they argue the Stormy Daniels attorney hurt the party’s efforts to block Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation.”

But I thought that “honor” went to Fineswine! Avenatti & Fineswine, same bucket of worthless RAT $hit! Just wondering how far down the RATs have to sink before they really do make good on their bi-annual threats to leave the country for good?
I understand Moskow is really “nice” this time of year! Or if they want better weather, how about Germany?


31 posted on 10/15/2018 3:23:51 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: yesthatjallen

I’m not sure how much lower the creepy porn lawyer could drag the filthy Rat party. But then, just when we think the Rats can’t be any sleazier and more disgusting, they always sink even lower.

Lindsey Graham’s response to @hole Eric “Kick Them” Holder was perfect: “When you go low, it’s a step up for you. You’re already in the gutter.”


32 posted on 10/15/2018 3:26:28 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: RooRoobird20

Perfect. Did he put that in a Tweet or was it a soundbite?


33 posted on 10/15/2018 3:28:05 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: yesthatjallen

The Rat Party leaders are hopefully sitting back and thinking: “Do we REALLY want a creepy sleazy porn guy and proven serial liar to lead our party, much less lead the country?”

Oh wait a second, the Rats have already been there, done that: The Rapist in Chief, Bill Clinton. Oops, never mind......


34 posted on 10/15/2018 3:33:54 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: SaveFerris

He said it in an interview with Martha McCallum on Fox News on October 9 th.


35 posted on 10/15/2018 3:37:49 PM PDT by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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To: RooRoobird20

Awesome. Thanks.


36 posted on 10/15/2018 3:38:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: yesthatjallen
All of us get lost in the darkness
Dreamers learn to steer by the stars
All of us do time in the gutter
Dreamers turn to look at the cars
37 posted on 10/15/2018 3:39:02 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: wally_bert

LOL!


38 posted on 10/15/2018 4:13:36 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

That man has the constitution of a vending machine - Cobra Commander.


39 posted on 10/15/2018 5:29:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: wally_bert

He’d be a heck of a lot more fun to be around than that Avenatti a-hole.


40 posted on 10/15/2018 5:34:39 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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