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‘Unimaginable destruction’: Hurricane smashes rows of houses
www.miamiherald.com ^ | 10/11/2018 | By JAY REEVES and BRENDAN FARRINGTON

Posted on 10/11/2018 12:42:19 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Chickensoup
This is hardly routine for a hurricane:

The equivalent of a tornado track - but probably 25 miles wide.

41 posted on 10/11/2018 1:35:53 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Rebelbase

There were 285 people remaining in Mexico Beach. They’ve found 20 alive so far.


42 posted on 10/11/2018 1:37:17 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: rexthecat

I’ve lived in Okinawa and in the Philippines.
The typhoons there are like this.

Clearly caused by whoever is president in the States at the time.


43 posted on 10/11/2018 1:37:38 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: nomorelurker
The family searching for that old lady now should have taken her out of there before the storm. FORCIBLY if necessary. She would still be here. NO one will survive a hurricane living on a beach looking at a massive ocean/gulf. The water WILL rise up and slam into you. Where do they think surge and waves will go??
Inland, the damage wasn't as thorough. I saw Biloxi/Pass Christian after Camille and Katrina. Shoreline scoured. A friend's father lived in Pass Christian during Katrina, refused to leave -1 block from the beach! She thought he was dead( she lived in Texas at the time) Took her forever to reach the coast only to find a slab where his house was. Luckily he-at the last minute- decided to walk over the railroad tracks to a shelter. She found him there. House and dogs wiped from the earth. Hard to believe Michael was worse than Katrina and Camille, physically not $$$ wise.
44 posted on 10/11/2018 1:37:44 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: nomorelurker
The family searching for that old lady now should have taken her out of there before the storm. FORCIBLY if necessary. She would still be here. NO one will survive a hurricane living on a beach looking at a massive ocean/gulf. The water WILL rise up and slam into you. Where do they think surge and waves will go??
Inland, the damage wasn't as thorough. I saw Biloxi/Pass Christian after Camille and Katrina. Shoreline scoured. A friend's father lived in Pass Christian during Katrina, refused to leave -1 block from the beach! She thought he was dead( she lived in Texas at the time) Took her forever to reach the coast only to find a slab where his house was. Luckily he-at the last minute- decided to walk over the railroad tracks to a shelter. She found him there. House and dogs wiped from the earth. Hard to believe Michael was worse than Katrina and Camille, physically not $$$ wise.
45 posted on 10/11/2018 1:37:44 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Haiku Guy
Not to long ago, people only built shacks on the beach islands. Now they build multi-million dollar homes.

Correct. Within many Freeper's lifetime, before weather satellites, high ground was the valuable real estate. People built inland from the shore because they didn't have enough warning of an approaching storm to safely evacuate.

46 posted on 10/11/2018 1:37:47 PM PDT by fso301
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To: mplc51

Amazing only 2 deaths reported >>

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And not even at the point of landfall.

One was caused by a tree.

In fact most of the damage from the storm will be found to be caused by the involvement of trees.


47 posted on 10/11/2018 1:38:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Little Ray
It will recover. Back in 1992, the town of Homestead, FL was almost wiped off the map. I drove through there just last winter and you would never know it was devastated in a hurricane. It was a thriving area with beautiful homes and landscape. I would definitely consider moving there.

Sooner or later, every eastern US coastal area from Brownsville, TX on up to Long Island and even Cape Cod, MA will have a devastating hurricane. You take your chances.

48 posted on 10/11/2018 1:38:12 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: Little Ray

My daughter’s ex in-laws had a home in Mexico Beach...had is the key word but they did evacuate and are fine. When she was married to their grandson they used to go there to visit, she could not believe it is all gone or nearly all gone.


49 posted on 10/11/2018 1:38:22 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Sick of these stupid headlines. The damage is very imaginable and routine for Hurricanes and Tornado’s all the time.

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Agreed, and the windspeed cited isn’t a speed measured at landfall. It’s an absolute maximum speed measured at sea with modern technology.


50 posted on 10/11/2018 1:39:55 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Red Badger

“Why people didn’t evacuate is something we should be studying,” said Craig Fugate,

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How many people were harmed by not evacuating?


51 posted on 10/11/2018 1:40:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: ClearBlueSky

As far as the media was concerned Katrina was a New Orleans only event. Hardly any real-time coverage at all about Pass Christian.


52 posted on 10/11/2018 1:44:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase (..)
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To: Little Ray

“This area is not New Orleans.”

I have stayed in New Orleans for a couple hurricanes, but would not stay right on the coast for a major storm.

Staying on the coast is just ignorant.


53 posted on 10/11/2018 1:44:36 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Scythian_Reborn

Thats part of the answer.

The other part is that the transportation and housing infrastructure for such massive moves simply does not exist.

There are not enough lanes on highways, and the fuel distribution system isn’t capable of delivering the amount of fuel that would be required in such a short period of time to all the vehicles that would be required to carry such an evacuation out.

It sounds like such an obvious answer...until you start to actually calculate real world resources and move from the theoretical to the practical.


54 posted on 10/11/2018 1:48:08 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: ealgeone

Nagan is an idiot and had no clue what to do...along with politics in the mix. The politics had more to do with fed, state, and local not being able to work together than anything.

What people must understand is even if expected, there is no way for outsiders to help immediately after a large disaster. Supplies and people to help can be staged ahead of time, but obviously not in the area expected to be hit. So locals must be able to as much as possible deal with the situation until the area is safe to enter, and roads are cleared enough to enter. That is how it has to work. If local government is inept before, during, and after the disaster I have no idea how to solve that issue. Move?

The purpose of federal help is to HELP local and state governments because their resources, manpower will not likely be enough to deal with a large disaster over an extended time. The problem is now in some areas people seem to think when disaster hits the feds should magically appear within moments to fix everything.


55 posted on 10/11/2018 1:52:05 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Calvin Locke

That has been known for centuries.

During the cleanup of Hurricane Elena in eighty five we could tell where the tornadoes had been by the rotational damage patterns in the debris. A pine tree that has been twisted apart by a tornado looks different from one knocked over by straight winds.

Chainsaws work on either though.


56 posted on 10/11/2018 1:54:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Blue House Sue

“It’s the price one pays to live on the coast.”

Sad, but that’s the reality. If you chose to live in near the beach in a hurricane zone, or on any any low-lying area, especially reclaimed swamp land, then this is what happens. In lifetime growing up in NC, I remember when no one built anything substantial on barrier islands or coastal areas not protected by barrier islands, or on reclaimed swamp land. Then, there was a lull in hurricane activity after the early 50s. Then, air conditioning became more available. Then, Yankees came South, following the sun and the dream of living near sand and shore. There were (and still are), naturally, many scoundrels willing to build and sell them huge expensive houses on the barrier islands, on unprotected coastline, and on reclaimed (drained)swamp land. Then, folks are shocked and dismayed when Mother Nature flexes her muscles. Amazing.


57 posted on 10/11/2018 1:55:38 PM PDT by myerson
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To: myerson

I think most folks who live or own property on a coastline know what the risks are. But they roll the dice, trading a few years of a lifestyle they want for that one time when the Big One comes along and wipes it all out.

It’s a decision everyone has to make for oneself.

I’ve been visiting Panama City Beach for 60 years. My wife and I go 2 or 3 times a year now. We both absolutely love the beach and the restaurants. And we’ve discussed purchasing property down there from time to time.

But we’ve always known that sooner or later what happened yesterday would occur. And we would be worried sick about investing money in something that could be wiped out in an afternoon.

So we decided to let others assume the risk and earn the property appreciation, if it occurs. We rent.


58 posted on 10/11/2018 2:04:30 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Red Badger
Michael, the most powerful hurricane to hit the continental U.S. in over 50 years

Not True

He seem to have forgotten about Hurricane Camille that hit slightly to the west of Michael 49 years ago in 1969.

Camille had the highest wind speed at landfall of any storm ever anywhere in the world.

https://geology.com/hurricanes/largest-hurricane/


59 posted on 10/11/2018 2:24:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (If Illegals Voted Republican 66 Million Democrats Would Be Screaming "Build The Wall !")
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To: Iron Munro

Michael, the most powerful hurricane to hit the continental U.S. in NEARLY 50 years.......................fixed it..........


60 posted on 10/11/2018 2:27:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (Q............BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.......................)
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