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1 posted on 10/11/2018 12:06:03 AM PDT by beaversmom
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I have an article written by David Kopel back in 2000 when then Senator Elect Hillary Clinton publicly called for the abolition of the Electoral College (in the wake of Algore’s defeat). Kopel sums it all up with this: “If you want to live in a country where it’s against the law to protect your family from a violent home invader, and where you get ‘free’ health care of lower quality than what a pet receives in the United States (referencing the Canadian example in his article), and if you think the American Founders were fools for wanting to prevent the concentration of political power, then by all means try to get rid of the Electoral College”.


35 posted on 10/11/2018 3:21:13 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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Newsflash to Occasional Cortex: We have a Republic, and our Republic needs the EC. If you want a full democracy, move to another country.


36 posted on 10/11/2018 3:27:32 AM PDT by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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Who?


37 posted on 10/11/2018 3:32:02 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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Looks like they are now renaming our Constitutional Republic to “Democratic Republic”...someone needs to straighten her out in a public forum....


39 posted on 10/11/2018 4:05:22 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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40 posted on 10/11/2018 4:06:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I posted a long time ago that folks are underestimating this woman. Hide and watch, wait and see.


41 posted on 10/11/2018 4:09:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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The Electoral College is the firewall that keeps the hordes of illegal aliens voting illegally from gaining complete power.

Which, of course, is why the tip-stealing bartender is opposed to it.


44 posted on 10/11/2018 4:19:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Trump: "I am Batman!")
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with out the Electoral College power would be more concentrated in to the hands of the elite leftist totalitarian fascists who she aspires to join.

___________________

I just tweeted this and it was immediately removed.

To GAB I go


47 posted on 10/11/2018 4:25:26 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists fascists today plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives soon)
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There goes her NY-14 election chances. /s


49 posted on 10/11/2018 4:33:34 AM PDT by MountainWalker
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"It is well past time we eliminate the Electoral College, a shadow of slavery’s power on America today that undermines our nation as a democratic republic."

Foolish hoe... Not only does our Republic need to keep the "Electoral College", but we also desperately need to repeal the 17th. amendment.. Political power needs to be taken away from DC. and moved back to the states..

50 posted on 10/11/2018 4:36:37 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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every village has its idiot.


51 posted on 10/11/2018 4:44:30 AM PDT by avital2
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The most obvious effect is that the last fraud standing wins.

Recounts in a close election under national popular vote could go on for years!


52 posted on 10/11/2018 4:45:45 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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It ‘Undermines’ Democracy


Yes it does. It’s supposed to. Democracy is mobocracy. Our FEDERAL government is a constitutional republic. And the voters don’t select a president. The states do.


53 posted on 10/11/2018 4:47:57 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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Sad that schools don't teach basic United States Civics any more, but they teach about all 57 genders.

Change the Constitution! There is a process to do that! But that will require them to convince citizens of the small states like North Dakota to vote to allow themselves to be screwed by the big states. So good luck!

54 posted on 10/11/2018 4:49:28 AM PDT by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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Well, it is a good thing that we don’t have a democracy, Ms. Occasional Cortex.


55 posted on 10/11/2018 4:51:48 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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Yes, there Is an Electoral College elector for each senator and each state has two senators regardless of size. But the commentators fail to note that each state also has one elector for each member it has in the House of Representatives. So California’s overwhelming size is more than represented among its electoral delegation. The electoral college defeat of Clinton was due to the “winner takes all” allocation of electors in most states. Some states changed their allocation of presidential electors to directly proportional to the popular ballot after the 2016 campaign. I’ll leave you to guess which party controlled those state’s legislatures.

So complaining about the Electoral College after losing a confirmation vote in the Senate is, to be frank, complete stupidity. The fact that the socialist poster girl from NYC is saying it reveals what an inexperienced, ignorant novice she really is. The source of Hiliary’s complaint is, of course, her never ending bad grace and continuing heartburn from losing the 2016 presidential election. I hope it proves fatal to her and soon. Political “analysts” making such comments only lowers the already low esteem accorded to their profession. And the mindless repetition of their uninformed commentary shows how “democratizing” media does not benefit the public discourse.

To be properly framed, this complaint should be about equal representation of each state in the Senate. The framers of the Constitution wanted it that way to prevent the larger states from completely dominating the legislative process. They also wanted the senators to represent the interests of their entire state as a whole, not just a particular district as representatives do. In fact, before the move to direct election in the early part of the 20th century, senators were appointed by state legislatures, thereby making them actual agents of their state in the national legislature.

Equal representation in the Senate means the smaller states views must be taken into consideration. That acts as a brake on ill-considered or badly formulated legislation from being rushed through Congress. However, as history has repeatedly proven, this measure alone cannot prevent Congress from acting stupidly if it is determined to do so.

The House is already directly proportional. Sort of. Divide 330 million by 50k to see how big the House should really be. Fixation with keeping representatives to 435 has already diluted the value of each vote and is the direct cause of the need for “big money” in politics. The Senate would serve no purpose beyond being an echo chamber if it was directly proportional as well.

However, all that is required to change that is a constitutional amendment. Fat chance of such an amendment even passing the Senate. Never mind the states ratifying it.

It’s those pesky small states again!

So, in the end, it’s just “professional Democrat” sour grapes at another loss being amplified by the “me too!” MSM.


56 posted on 10/11/2018 4:54:06 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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...and thank {Diety} it does. Because in a democracy that mob rules, regardless of how ignorant and manipulated they are. I realize that is exactly what the leftists want. Fortunately we live in a Republic, so I am protected (somewhat) from them.


57 posted on 10/11/2018 4:54:44 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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She’s so stupid I’m surprised she isn’t campaigning on making the electoral college free for everyone and forgiving electoral college loans.


58 posted on 10/11/2018 4:54:46 AM PDT by Atticus
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It is well past time we eliminate the Electoral College, a shadow of slavery’s power on America today that undermines our nation as a democratic republic.

We have a representative democracy, better yet, a representative republic.

Totalitarian governments have "democracies" that are guided by mob rule. Mob rule is supported by Democrats today because they sponsor violence against those they hate. Democrats have to lie about their real agenda to get elected.

The cops in Portland recently just sat and watched an old man and old woman being assaulted by violent Antifa demonstrators. That is an example of mob rule (as seen in the past in NAZI Germany).

60 posted on 10/11/2018 5:01:20 AM PDT by olezip
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Something tells me she wants Hispanics, legal or otherwise, to propel her into the White House like blacks did for Obama. She’s community organizing.


62 posted on 10/11/2018 5:05:56 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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