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International Panel Calls for End to Global War on Fossil Fuels
Watts Up With That ^ | 05 October 2018 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 10/05/2018 4:38:30 PM PDT by zeestephen

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To: Ben Ficklin; tarheelswamprat
Thanks for your Comments, Ben.

Re: “The NIPCC report is a rebuttal report and there is no point in reading the NIPCC until you have read the IPCC report.”

If you mean the most recent yet-to-be published IPCC report, you are mistaken.

The NIPCC rebuttal report - “Climate Change Reconsidered” - is a four part series that began in 2009.

The last volume in that series - “Fossil Fuels” - will be published in December. Work on “Fossil Fuels” began in 2014, and its focus is on the economic and environmental impact of fossil fuels compared to renewable energy.

The full, final draft of “Fossil Fuels” contains almost 3,000 citations to peer reviewed literature.

Re: “There are no scientists there [at Heartland].”

If you mean Climate Scientists, there are only a few.

However, Fred Singer, who you single out as not qualified, taught and directed research in Atmospheric Physics for almost 30 years at the University of Maryland and UVA.

In any event, Heartland is a Climate Science “fact checker” and not a research institute.

If Climate Science is only understandable by Climate Scientists, then it is a self-serving philosophy, not a science, and it is completely useless to policy makers.

Re: “Heartland's funding is from fossil fuel interests.”

And Climate Science is funded by government and university interests, and it is intensely marketed by Hard Left media interests.

Bottom Line - there are sound, scientific reasons to disagree with man made global warming.

To my eye, the current warming is simply a predictable snap back from the Little Ice Age, which is plainly visible on any temperature chart for the last 10,000 years.

My advice - be careful what you wish for.

20,000 years ago, CO2 to fell to 180 ppm, the lowest ever recorded.

If it had dropped to 150 ppm, most plants would die or stop growing, and every large land animal on Earth would have gone extinct.

41 posted on 10/07/2018 4:51:50 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen; Ben Ficklin

Thanks to both of you for the thoughtful exchanges. Appeals to authority based on who funds who don’t interest me. Facts and logic are where the answers will be found.

A minor nit, zeestephen, re: “the current warming is simply a predictable snap back from the Little Ice Age”. There is no current warming - we are 20 years into a cooling phase. The sunspot cycle is at a low ebb, and the incessant media stories about “record temps”, “more storms than ever”, etc. are simply not true. It’s media agit-prop writ large.


42 posted on 10/07/2018 5:14:22 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: zeestephen

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43 posted on 10/15/2018 7:09:31 PM PDT by NutsOnYew
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