Posted on 09/24/2018 10:41:58 AM PDT by Red Badger
Interesting. You have been "studying" a group of people identified in 1999 for more than 50 years? How are your math skills?
“Interesting. You have been “studying” a group of people identified in 1999 for more than 50 years? How are your math skills?”
Lame. Do you really imagine that Dunning and Kruger were the first to notice the phenomenon? I’m grateful for D&K for making it easy to refer to illusory superiority, but have since my teens observed people who mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is.
Now, since it’s a terrible waste of time to reply to such low-wattage attempts at...whatever it is you’re trying to do, I’m out.
Perhaps you should be more careful with your choice next time.
Really? Wow? I moved in with my future wife about 3 months before we were married and boy the people around us were judging us like crazy (not saying we shouldn’t have been) - but in the same vein seem to have no problem with queers and freaks.
Your comment: “That’s a lie. Each individual city church stands on its own.
In what way, then, did the Incarnate Son of God, before departing from this earth, provide for the continuance and advancement of his kingdom?”
One thing is certain: He did not write a book, nor did he order one to be written. Instead of doing that, he founded a Church, against which he declared the gates of hell should not prevail and with which he promised to be present while the world should last. This being so, it is evident that every faithful follower of Jesus should become a member of that Church.
But which of all the churches that profess to be Christian is the one which Christ established? Unquestionably the Roman Catholic Church, for this alone goes back to the Savior’s lifetime. This was the Church which naturally succeeded Judaism; this was the Church whose early history is chronicled in the Acts of the Apostles, and this is still the only Church which, since the days of Christ, has maintained an uninterrupted life of nearly two millennia. Her documents, history, and traditions all go back to the age of the apostles. From her all other forms of Christianity have been derived.
Feel free to read the rest of the article.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/identifying-the-church-of-christ-0
Ever hear of the Holy Spirit? Jesus said the Holy Spirit would guild them into all truth. Jesus said, "I will build My church."
Your denominational theory was created by men in search of earthly power and earthly glory. Read the book, Martyrs Mirror.
I guess you didn’t read the Bible or understand history.
Yes the Holy spirit came down on the Apostles on Pentecost and has guided the Bishops and leaders of the Catholic church since then (even when they sinned).
It was the 30,000 other denominations that were founded by men. Which church are you part of?
The plain, simple truth is that Jesus Christ founded on earth directly and personally an organized religious society which he called his Church. A society is a number of people who work together under the same authority using the same means towards the same objective.
Jesus Christ selected certain men whom he personally trained to govern his Church under one whom he appointed its head. He told them what they were to aim at and how they were to do it, with his help. Years passed and that simple society grew; its organization became more complex, but we can trace its history through the centuries. To-day only the Catholic Church claims, and is able to prove her claim, to be that society.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-church-christ-founded
That Christ established a visible organized Church is a truth clearly set forth in the New Testament, completely vindicated by the Church’s history and absolutely reasonable. We cannot be true followers of Christ unless we accept his Church. It is through that Church that he lives on in the world today. It is through that Church that his ministry continues. It lies at the very heart of his revelation to men. He said in his Sermon on the Mount, “He that shall break one of these least commandments and shall so teach men shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 5:19).
What shall we say of those who, through culpable ignorance, intellectual indolence, or moral cowardice, reject the Church God came to earth to found?
I hope that now you know what sort of a Church Christ’s is; therefore, what sort of Church you must look for. It is the constitution of the Church that matters. Too much time is spent in bandying texts and arguing about scandals in history. God’s Church is human as well as divine; Christ told us in advance that scandals would come. He chose Peter, who had denied him, to be the first pope in preference to John, the beloved, to emphasize that we must always distinguish between the man and the office or, in other words, between the constitution of the Church and the men who make up the Church.
The short cut to the true following of Christ is to find out what kind of Church his is. We have described it in these pages. In the world today only one Church, the Catholic Church, with its center in Rome, fills the bill. The crucial question is that of authority. We have seen it at every stage of the Church’s history—in the councils, in the Fathers, in the Acts and the epistles, in the Gospels, where it was conferred by Christ himself. That same authority is in the world today vested in the Catholic bishops who are the successors of Peter. In a nutshell, the final answer is what you say to the question, Where on earth is Peter?
We must think particularly of the significance of an incident related by Matthew:
If thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between him and thee alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them, tell the Church. And if he will not hear the Church, let him be to thee as a heathen and a publican. (Matt. 18:15–17)
Those words “tell the Church” are important. We might translate even more accurately “appeal to the Church.” You cannot appeal to what you cannot see. Therefore any idea that the Church consists merely of those who make an act of faith in Christ, whose number is known to God alone, cannot be sustained in the light of this text. Moreover, the Church is a visible body with jurisdiction. You cannot appeal to the Church in case of a dispute if the Church has no power to make a decision. Our Lord is definite: Those who deliberately reject the authority of the Church must be cut off from communion. That is what a Jew would have understood by “let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.” There is no question here of the Church referred to being any other than the Church that Christ founded. This is a clear statement by our blessed Lord himself, God, of the authoritative power of his Church. Paul acted upon it in the case of the incestuous Corinthian (1 Cor. 5:1–8). Although he was absent he bade them carry out the sentence he had pronounced in his name and that of Christ. On this passage St. Thomas Aquinas wrote that the Corinthian “is thus separated from the society of the faithful, deprived of the sacraments and the suffrages of the Church, by all of which things a man is defended from the assaults of the devil.”
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/christs-visible-church
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