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Are Teachers Really 'Not Paid for the Work [They] Do'? Time Says Yes, Reality Begs To Differ
Reason ^ | September 15th 2018 | Nick Gillespie

Posted on 09/15/2018 3:48:35 PM PDT by Ennis85

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1 posted on 09/15/2018 3:48:35 PM PDT by Ennis85
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Oh, puleez. She makes plenty and gets the entire summer off. We’re taking in half that and sure things are tight but not so much we have to sell blood.

The hospital here hasn’t paid for blood in about 25 years. Do any these days or is she lying?


2 posted on 09/15/2018 3:55:32 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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She is either the worst money manager in history, or the drug habit is not reported...

Not buyin’ this BS.


3 posted on 09/15/2018 3:56:44 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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LOL, and you should see what they get in retirement. No need to sell any blood.


4 posted on 09/15/2018 3:56:48 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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Ignorant journalists. She sells plasma, if the story isn’t just made up.


5 posted on 09/15/2018 3:58:33 PM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Ennis85

Here in the Piedmont of NC 40% of middle schoolers cannot pass the math or english standardized testing. There are more and more F-rated schools and, get this, the state is considering doing away with the math portion of the teacher certification test because it’s “so hard”. These people are overpaid babysitters imo.


6 posted on 09/15/2018 3:58:45 PM PDT by punknpuss
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To: Bringbackthedraft

And what about the husband? Is he a deadbeat?


7 posted on 09/15/2018 3:58:55 PM PDT by TheBullWat
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“””””””The U.S. average public school teacher salary for 2016–17 was $59,660.””””””””””””””””””””

Pretty good for a part time job. They work eight months a year.


8 posted on 09/15/2018 4:00:11 PM PDT by shelterguy
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Total BS. They get paid less than the government employee fantasy wage scale, not a bit behind what the working people who pay their wages earn.

I'm sick of sob stories about government employees who weep over how little they're paid. Let the teachers quit and find higher paying jobs if it's so horrible. Otherwise they should STFU and be glad they aren't paid based on what percentage of the children they "teach" actually learn anything.

9 posted on 09/15/2018 4:02:27 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

They only work around 180 days a year...this is not 1970...

The problem is they cannot fire the bad teachers..

My wife was a first second teacher...all her kids could read and do math..she made it fun..

Good school system...Air Academy school district..Colorado Springs..

There were teachers there that were not giving a 100%..

Why work hard when they cannot fire you..


10 posted on 09/15/2018 4:03:32 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Ennis85

This wrangling has been going on for decades.

Teachers are contract employees. They are contracted for X number of days per ‘year’. There may be allowances for so many bad-weather days, etc., for sick leave and for teacher’s days [when teachers are at school doing administrative tasks, but students are not in school].

Some teachers may earn extra pay for summer school, if available. Otherwise, the teacher has to find supplemental summer employment or be without a paycheck.

Many districts will pay the teacher spread over 12 months or 9 months, but the salary is still for X number of contract days.


11 posted on 09/15/2018 4:06:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Truth is teachers are well paid, receive top drawer healthcare benefits and generous pension plans and have probably the best job security of any profession in the Country

Teaching is also a lifestyle job in the sense that teachers have tons of days off in the form of winter break, Christmas break, spring break and several months off in the Summer.

The job secure, surplus of free time teaching lifestyle does not comport with the Type A , 80 hour a week and never off the clock lifestyle and mindset of a stressed out corporate exec making twice what they make so teachers are generally unappreciative of their free time and relatively low stress career path

It is also true that some, but not all, teachers spend substantial amounts of their personal money on supplies for their kids

12 posted on 09/15/2018 4:07:24 PM PDT by rdcbn
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Look at what the taxes she pays. Here take home is probably comparable to someone making 20 grand more


13 posted on 09/15/2018 4:08:24 PM PDT by redgolum
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I’m a 3rd year teacher in a large county in central VA and I make far less than this lady does. It’s true I put in far more hours than I am contracted for but that’s the job and I understood that going in. I gladly gave up a six figure income to teach and it’s the best job I ever had. When you consider that teachers get a 10 week paid vacation each summer I have zero sympathy for my fellow teachers who whine about the pay. Don’t like the pay or the hours then find another job.


14 posted on 09/15/2018 4:12:41 PM PDT by Jeeper (The national security of the United States can never be left in the hands of liberals.)
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It is also true that some, but not all, teachers spend substantial amounts of their personal money on supplies for their kids

And mechanics buy their own tools. I have spent years hearing about the great sacrifices of teachers who buy pencils and paper for their classes. In reality the amounts of money are small, and as a percentage of the budget of school districts there is no reason for the school not to provide whatever the kids need.

Why is it that every parent is made to go out and buy supplies at retail where the school could buy the same pencils and paper for 50% less wholesale?

Many school districts spend more than $15,000 per student per year. 1% of that is $150.00. At wholesale prices $150.00 buys a lot of pencils, paper, crayons, notebooks, etc.

15 posted on 09/15/2018 4:12:57 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Hope Brown can make $60 donating plasma from her blood cells twice in one week, and a little more if she sells some of her clothes at a consignment store. It's usually just enough to cover an electric bill or a car payment.

I could make nothing from donating my clothes. I am financially very comfortable, but I still wear clothes until they are worn out - not until I get tired of them or until I see a "must have" deal while clothes shopping. Car payments? I've been driving my current car for well over a decade, and I never replaced a car less than 15 years old unless it was totaled or needed repairs costing triple the car's book value. I also got married decades ago, stayed married, and we lived well within our means our whole lives. Perhaps she should live on a budget rather than wasting money and whining that someone needs to give her more.

16 posted on 09/15/2018 4:16:54 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Being a teacher is not conscripted labor and if one considers their salaries, plus extras, insurance and retirement packages that permit 80% at least after 20-25 years, into their hours and days per year, those aren’t as awful as they make out.

Again, it isn’t as though they were drafted and forced to teach 60 hour weeks, 52 weeks every year!

Worst of all, most of the generous tax dollars given to local schools (at least in our area) go into “administration salaries, staff, special ed, etc.

When I was in school as well as my kids, our schools had one principal, one vice principal, a full time nurse, office staff and cafeteria “ladies!”

Our math or history teacher taught driver’s ed and our physical education served as coach for our sports teams!

We also had language teachers, science teachers, and teachers in Home Econ., shop and a counselor.

17 posted on 09/15/2018 4:18:55 PM PDT by zerosix
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In some states, first year teacher salary is only $26,000 per year. And that’s NOT BS!

It’s a pretty skimpy wage after spending 5 years in school to become a teacher.

Course, there ARE some pretty crappy teachers out there, and even that measly salary is too much, but that wasn’t my point.


18 posted on 09/15/2018 4:20:22 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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My prop taxes went up $600 and the education majors just got a 16% raise...

I think they need a few more curriculum days and maybe a few more 3 day weekends.

19 posted on 09/15/2018 4:20:41 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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They work 185 days a year.


20 posted on 09/15/2018 4:22:56 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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