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I do, really: Naalehu couple married in 1982 officially ties knot after documentation snafu
West Hawaii Today ^ | September 2, 2018 | Tiffany DeMasters

Posted on 09/03/2018 2:47:46 PM PDT by texas booster

KEALAKEKUA — Casually dressed and holding three purple orchids, Leigh Mitchell walked into the District Courtroom, Tuesday, with her husband Randy of the 36 years to get married. As they waited briefly by the courtroom door Randy and Leigh, now both 60 years old, were all smiles and laughs as they told curious onlookers the short version of their story. Two years ago, the couple learned their marriage license was never filed with the courts when they were married in California on Feb. 14, 1982. As a result, they were there that Tuesday to officially record their nuptials...

Their daughter, Katelynn (a lawyer), said, her concerns came from a practical viewpoint and the consequences that come along with no official documentation of their marriage. Things like life insurance and taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at westhawaiitoday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: governmentfailure
A Unitarian minister married the couple in Huntington Beach, California, in front of nearly 100 people. Randy said the document of their marriage either got lost in the mail or wasn’t recorded by the court.

Every so often we have to deal with "official" government action, that really does have a solid impact on people and families.

Here is a case from this weekend of a couple who thought they were married in 1982 but their Unitarian minister or the local government failed them.

Lots of us on this board have been married 35+ years and are nearly 60, so I thought it would be of interest, or could help coax a couple of stories from our FR flock.

And to remind everyone that yes, the paperwork is really important, and bureaucrats will hide behind botched paperwork until YOU take the time and money to fix it.

1 posted on 09/03/2018 2:47:46 PM PDT by texas booster
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To: texas booster

When I was much younger we went to the Unitarian church to pick up cougars and that’s why they went there too. It had zero religious atmosphere. It was a meeting room.


2 posted on 09/03/2018 2:54:35 PM PDT by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: texas booster

A civil event not recording in Hawaii?

I wonder if these errors occur in Hawaii for events other than marriages... say, births... I mean, seriously, one could have been born there in 1961, and not be actually registered as being born there!


3 posted on 09/03/2018 3:07:46 PM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: texas booster

In the old days, common law marriage would have cured the defect. But society has gotten too sophisticated for practical solutions in most of the states.


4 posted on 09/03/2018 3:09:04 PM PDT by PAR35
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Same thing happened with my wife of 30 years. She works at a church and a woman came in looking for the sacramental records of their marriage 40 plus years before. She could not prove she was married and his life insurance would not pay out . There is a process in Ma. To go thru and get it recorded by the state. My wife and I checked and our priest never signed the license and sent it back. We had to get our records and get our marriage recorded. I told her that both her friends and family and mine would swear we never got married 😊
5 posted on 09/03/2018 3:19:36 PM PDT by lonerepubinma
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To: C210N
It was actually not recorded in CA, before they moved to Hawaii.
6 posted on 09/03/2018 3:29:46 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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I wonder how in states without common law marriage how the courts would handle this if it were discovered in a divorce that the marriage was never official?


7 posted on 09/03/2018 3:37:43 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Consensus isn't science.)
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My sister in law had a similar fiasco. Turned out the minister was not actually ordained. She was not amused.


8 posted on 09/03/2018 4:01:17 PM PDT by Brilliant
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My son got ordained, married several couples (including his sister) and then dropped the ordination.

He mentioned that there were certain legal issues that look minor on the outside but get really important when it is on your shoulders. Still ministering so I don't complain.

9 posted on 09/03/2018 4:24:11 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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If it just depends on state law.


10 posted on 09/03/2018 4:47:15 PM PDT by Brilliant
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the IRS and state tax departments don’t try to go after them for 35 years of back taxes as they were likely filing as “married filing jointly” all these years....


11 posted on 09/03/2018 4:53:43 PM PDT by apillar
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