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1 posted on 09/03/2018 1:19:14 PM PDT by Simon Green
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USSC precedent holds that self-defense allows a felon to possess a firearm when that is the only viable option. She should beat this.


53 posted on 09/03/2018 3:50:21 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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Legally what was she supposed to have done? Die?


54 posted on 09/03/2018 4:07:33 PM PDT by mom.mom (...our flag was still there.)
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I think the common law theory of "necessity" applies here.

Almost all common-law and statutory definitions of the necessity defense include the following elements: (1) the defendant acted to avoid a significant risk of harm; (2) no adequate lawful means could have been used to escape the harm; and (3) the harm avoided was greater than that caused by breaking the law.

59 posted on 09/03/2018 5:31:08 PM PDT by fini
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I’ve never believed people lose their right to self-defense just because they have done time in jail serving felony sentences. It is not logical to deny them their right. If you honestly cannot trust them with a gun, then you should not let them out of prison to begin with.

Criminals will always get guns if they want to. Denying them legal guns just makes them commit another crime. Which is idiocy.

That said, if I were a felon, I would simply use a black powder muzzle loading pistol for defense. It is a pain to load, but it is legal for felons to own, being a “firearm accessory” rather than a firearm under the law. A crossbow is another reasonable means of home defense, but single shot unfortunately. A cross bow would have done her not good, but a nice 1851 Navy black powder pistol would have done as good a job as whatever she used.

That is what I would have loaded at home if I was a felon with my right of self defense denied.


63 posted on 09/03/2018 7:23:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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Under the law, a felon my not live where guns are available. So technically, a married couple are prohibited from owning guns if only 1 of them is felon, even though the other is not.

That is the law. It is a stupid law.

I for one don’t believe you lose your 2nd Amendment rights just because you have a felony conviction. I would love to see that law changed. Even through it would allow a lot of criminals to legally own guns, they are going to get them illegally anyway.


64 posted on 09/03/2018 7:26:37 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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In 2017, (Tran) pleaded guilty to felony possession of marijuana with intent to deliver as well as possession of drug paraphernalia. (She had been pulled over while riding in a vehicle with friends. Each person in the vehicle received the same charges when no one claimed the items.) She got a five-year suspended sentence, and as part of that was prohibited from either possessing or using firearms.

If you have teens or pre-teens here is a perfect example to have them read of why it is vitally important to choose their friends carefully.

It is also a very good reason to reserve the right to use your veto if your children choose poorly.

69 posted on 09/04/2018 1:04:50 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6!
72 posted on 09/04/2018 6:25:37 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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more than nine months after the shooting

Why?

Is someone running for office?

73 posted on 09/04/2018 6:27:25 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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