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To: kabar
For all of that, not much proof.

Source A and B said.. (Axelrod and Biden? :->). But, the same source said Trump did NOT take the bait:

So far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business deals offered him in Russia in order to further the Kremlin’s cultivation of him.

And

However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.

Is this part even illegal?

Sucks to be Mueller.

I don't think Mueller has anything--not anything legal scholars couldn't shoot a thousand holes through.

Russia might have tried, but Trump didn't play.

All else I find fascinating, especially your take on Obama's motives.

And the whole Birther thing was started by Hillary in 2008.

As an active FReeper during the past 20 years, the "Natural-born citizen" controversy, Obama's ease of getting into Occidental, Columbia and Harvard (reeks of Foreign student application) et al have been big news. IMHO, Trump was actually late to the party in 2011.

148 posted on 09/02/2018 8:33:26 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Vote GOP this November. Take two friends to vote with you!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Mueller is using the dossier as the roadmap to take down Trump. We don’t know what else is in the redacted FISA warrant or in Trump’s FBI file. Comey only briefed Trump on the salacious details in the dossier to gauge his reaction and perhaps blackmail him like J. Edgar used to do. Comey said that Trump was “morally unfit” to be President. Brennan has said something similar. And so have a number of Dem congressmen re the golden showers accusation. Sen Merkley said specifically he believed the allegations.

Re the birther issue, I was very involved on FR in the discussions in 2008 as well as its resurrection in 2016 concerning the eligibility of Cruz. I know more about the issue than I like to admit, Constitutionally, government regulations, and the sordid history of Obama. It is enervating just thinking about it.

Trump may have come late to the issue, but he was the one who forced Obama to produce the long form of his BC, which the media said didn’t exist. Arpaio and his Cold Posse showed that this electronic version was a fraud. Obama and Holder went after Arpaio and found some phony crime. Trump pardoned Arpaio.


160 posted on 09/02/2018 9:08:12 AM PDT by kabar
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