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To: DeweyCA

My only problem with all of this is that either its a belief system, or it is science.

If it’s science, then pose a working theory and then build experiments to test.

If it’s a belief system, then we’re done here. It’s a Gaia cult.

Back to science, let’s start with how a CO2 molecule can rise to the top of the atmosphere, though it is heavier than other molecules in the air column. Given the amount of plant life in the ocean, it would support that CO2 sinks, else the oceans would be deserts.

If they can tackle this, and construct experiments to support their assertions, then you have a debate, and more.

I know that CFCs were banned due to simple lab experiments that proved undeniably that it was eroding the ozone layer. It wasn’t even an argument. They were legal, then they weren’t.

Global warming could go the same way. Build your experiments and prove your assertions, the world will follow.


21 posted on 08/28/2018 8:18:43 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

“If it’s science, then pose a working theory and then build experiments to test.”

Your point is absolutely right on. The question is not whether climate change is occurring or not. The question (as stated in the article) is about human-triggered climate change.

The alleged “trigger” by human activity is through the emission of CO2 in the atmosphere. The greenhouse gas theory and ALL of the general circulation models predict that warming in the atmosphere (the tropical troposphere, to be more precise) will proceed at a higher rate (3 to 4 times) than the surface rate. This is reasonable because, if the warming is due to CO2 in the atmosphere, the atmosphere will have to warm first. This is the prediction. However, observations show that the atmosphere is warming at a lower rate than the surface. The exact opposite of what the theory predicts. Therefore, “Science” would conclude that the warming trend (if any) is NOT driven by greenhouse gases and therefore NOT the result of human activity. The prediction and experiment has been done, and failed. This is but one prediction/experiment. There is at least one other that I am aware of which also yields the opposite of the prediction.


67 posted on 08/28/2018 6:23:16 PM PDT by pjd
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