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Leftists (which includes most global warming advocates) are becoming more brazen in their attempts to censor any dissent. The Los Angeles Times newspaper will no longer print any anti-climate change opinions. It will probably nnot be too long until Facebook does the same. Inside every Leftist is a totalitarian.

Btw, these people say that "climate deniers" don't have to be ridiculed, immediately after ridiculing them by comparing them to flat earthers. In addition to being totalitarians, you can count on Leftists to be hypocrites.

1 posted on 08/28/2018 8:05:24 AM PDT by DeweyCA
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The trick Gaia Worshippers/Envirosocialist Watermelons try to pull is to claim that anybody who does not adhere to their divine trinity is a “climate change denier”. You must accept all three lest you be branded a heretic:

1) there has been a warming trend over the last 100 years (reasonable. There has been. How much is open to some debate but there clearly has been a warming trend of about 1 degree on average over that time)

2) man is the cause ie anthropogenic forcing ie higher levels of atmospheric carbon is the cause (FAR less certain.)

3) WE MUST TAKE DRASTIC ACTION ABSOLUTELY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!.... or it will be utter catastrophe, cats and dogs living together, etc. (pure hysteria complete with doom mongering predictions which have repeatedly failed to come true).

Oh, and you are NOT allowed to talk about mitigation like carbon sequestration, improved scrubbers, spending money on sea walls, etc.

and don’t you DARE note that warmer average temperatures in the past have been associated with human flourishing rather than disaster.

Question the orthodoxy in any way and you are akin to a holocaust denier! You evil capitalist you.


26 posted on 08/28/2018 8:22:05 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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“...no longer willing to lend our credibility to debates ...”
A bit full of himself, I’d say. How can you lend what you don’t possess?
His credibility is all in his tiny little mind.


28 posted on 08/28/2018 8:35:01 AM PDT by Fireone (Build the gallows first, then the wall!)
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Sounds like 58 people whose grants are running out.


29 posted on 08/28/2018 8:36:06 AM PDT by JennysCool
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“...we won’t take part in the debate.” This is the point where it goes from science to a religion.

Religions must be accepted on faith, science requires proof.


30 posted on 08/28/2018 8:38:23 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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In order to buy into the Global Warming/Climate Change politics of the Left, you have to believe ALL of the following:

1) There actually IS climate change that we can measure over (geologically) short periods of time;

2) Said climate change is largely, or very significantly, caused by the activities of Mankind;

3) Said climate change is wholly, or mostly, bad (For humans? For animals? For plants? For WHO, exactly?);

4) That putting into place draconian laws and regulations will stop, or significantly slow down said climate change in an expeditious manner;

5) That the economic effect of increasing the cost of energy (because that is not only the effect of the existing and proposed laws/regulations, it is their GOAL) in order to slow down/stop climate change will be of less consequence than not putting those laws/regulations into place; and

6) That we should trust the political Left worldwide to make this choice for everyone.

I’d say that each and every one of these propositions is, at best, doubtful. Some border on the metaphysically absurd (esp. #6). Combining the probabilities of all of these things (by multiplying the probability of each being true times all of the other probabilities), you end up with a number that is probably well under 1%, and certainly under 5%. So we’re going to risk a substantial portion of the global economy on an under 5% probability, and let the Leftists run the whole thing on top of that, is a guaranteed fustercluck of the highest order.

Besides, the very proposition that the Earth is warming outside of the normal swings in the climate is so absurd that those financially interested in pushing this narrative have had to fudge or entirely make up the numbers...numerous times, so many that they got caught on many occasions (and how many “scientific facts” that they’ve presented have been hogwash, but hogwash that wasn’t caught?).

They emotion-driven tyrant-wannabees can call me all of the names they want - I consider it an honor from the likes of them.


31 posted on 08/28/2018 8:40:27 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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The greatest difficulty in dealing with the lying left is this, they control the media and frame all debates as settled before debate that way they can cast you as a “denier” and sanctimoniously dismiss anything you have to say all the while insulting your intelligence and more.


34 posted on 08/28/2018 8:49:20 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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It’s settled science, just like the “objective,” fake studies on:

- Low sodium (under 3,000 mg and over 6,000 mg have higher mortality)
- Food-based cholesterol (you need 1,000-1,500 mg a day from food, or your body has to make it)
- High carbohydrate diets for everyone—especially diabetics (worsens blood sugar for all)
- Saturated fat (doesn’t cause cholesterol plaques)

35 posted on 08/28/2018 8:50:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Who’s denying that the climate is changing? Climate always changes. It’s never stable. Glaciers covered the top half of the USA down to around the level of New York. They are gone due to natural phenomena. The forces that accounted for the loss of the glaciers are still in action. Denying that is bad science.


36 posted on 08/28/2018 8:51:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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We’ve blown through about a dozen of their “act by this date or it will be too late!” deadlines. Our goose is cooked, it’s all over but the basting.


38 posted on 08/28/2018 8:57:28 AM PDT by dead
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We must not offer credibility to those who deny it,

So much for the scientific method.

39 posted on 08/28/2018 8:58:03 AM PDT by windsorknot
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Of course climate change is real. We had cycles of ice age followed by global warming again and again for Billions of years.

What is not real is that climate change is caused by humans. It is caused only by the Sun, which is million times bigger than planet earth, and is the only external source of heat for the planet.

40 posted on 08/28/2018 9:00:34 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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“Shut up!”, the socialist explained.


41 posted on 08/28/2018 9:03:07 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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Skimmed the article but kept hearing the Soviet Army men’s choir doing a stirringly patriotic number in the background.


43 posted on 08/28/2018 9:09:22 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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No one is denying that the climate is changing. What this guy really means is you don’t have a right to participate in the debate unless you agree that a massive new government spending, tax and regulatory program, controlled by people like this guy, is necessary to “combat” climate change.


44 posted on 08/28/2018 9:13:10 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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We are no longer willing to lend our credibility to debates

The next debate will be the first.

45 posted on 08/28/2018 9:19:19 AM PDT by eddie willers
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yet another post of The Guardian, a tiny leftist rag with print circulation of 138,000 ...


46 posted on 08/28/2018 9:20:31 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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Here is the problem leftist and big government goons, if you are wrong, the consequences could be beyond catastrophic. We are in an ice age. For most of the past million years, Glaciers have been located along the northern US border. That is the normal climate state for the planet right now. We only have short periods that last around 10 to 15 thousand years, when the glaciers subside during warming. We are near the end of that warming period. Why in the world would anyone with half a brain, actually advocate cooling the planet in this circumstance ?


49 posted on 08/28/2018 9:48:50 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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Dear leftist, do you have proof humanity is warming the planet? If you do, please let us know. Why is Mars warming? Are we so powerful that we are warming Mars?


50 posted on 08/28/2018 9:52:06 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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Global warming is real because I say it’s real. /sarc

(Compliments to Oldeconomybuyer)

Consider temperature drops during relatively brief lunar eclipses.

Brrr! How Much Can Temperatures Drop During a Total Solar Eclipse?

Also, consider hourly weather forecasts for next 24 hours show that nighttime temperatures stop dropping after sunrise (Sherlock issue), assuming sunny day.

51 posted on 08/28/2018 10:27:27 AM PDT by Amendment10
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GWCRAP
57 posted on 08/28/2018 11:57:57 AM PDT by FrankR (IF it wasn't for the "F-word", and it's deritiives, the left would have no message at all.)
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