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Trump and Jefferson
Townhall.com ^ | August 27, 2018 | Joel Goodman

Posted on 08/27/2018 6:42:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

Well, it would seem as if Donald Trump has more in common with the Founding Fathers than one would have imagined; especially Thomas Jefferson.

Besides having red hair Jefferson gave no quarter to the Barbary Pirates. Not fearing any politically correct retribution by going after a Muslim majority country, he sent a newly created Navy to stop their interference in American trade in the Mediterranean. He was not going to let anyone coerce the young nation into an inferior position on the world’s stage.

Jefferson seized the opportunity to make America greater, literally greater in physical size by spending an unheard of sum to buy Louisiana from France. He was considered foolish; not even knowing what he had bought, and a couple of guys had to be sent out to explore this world Jefferson had brought under the American umbrella.

Jefferson fought with the economists and politicians of his day who wanted large debts and a more centrally controlled economy, along with a concomitant expansion of the central government. He was despised by the Hamilton Federalists, and mostly by Hamilton himself, and was blocked by them as often as they could. In fact the country almost came to open violence in the election of 1800, with the Federalists openly supporting Burr, the other Democratic-Republican Candidate. It was only a back room deal to deny Burr the presidency, which supposedly included agreements to preserve some of Hamilton’s programs that maintained the peace. CARTOONS | Gary Varvel View Cartoon

The violent Left and their apologists are intent upon destroying the Republic by tearing down and demeaning anything noble that was done by the mortal men who built this country.

Humankind is humankind, and we are all subject to the frailties that accompany our mortal beings. That some of us rise to greatness, most to living out a simple life, and some sink to evil is our history as Homo sapiens. It is both our weaknesses and our strengths that make us who we are. It is both the weaknesses and strengths of our kind that make civilization what it is. It is the daring and the aggressive that have built societies, and the thoughtful and the kind that have tempered aggression. We need both.

Those who believe that eliminating people who strive on a plane higher than most and imposing conformity upon the rest of us will bring about a utopia are fools. Many understand that. Some don’t.

Demeaning the accomplishments of Jefferson because he held Black held slaves at a time when slaves of all colors were held world wide, and because he fathered a child with one in his servitude brings us as a species no closer to someone’s artificial standard of perfection.

I have yet to see anything built by angels. As Robert Browning said, “Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?”

It is the same with President Trump. He is who he is – a flawed being, no more or less than most. But his difference is that he has dared to reinvigorate a spirit that brought into being a great Republic, unlike one ever seen before.

That America is both good and bad, had been good and bad, and will continue to be good and bad, does nothing to diminish its specialness.

Until President Trump is proven to be a criminal who has harmed people in an unconscionable manner – we should do what we can to push aside those who hate this country and speak over them as they have tried to speak over us. There is no moral law that stops good people from shouting more loudly than bad people.

It is now a time for those who understand that loving America is not to love its bad deeds, but to embrace them as one would embrace another human with all their goodness and badness.

I for one am tired of hearing about how bad everyone is but those who believe in a utopian socialist world.


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1 posted on 08/27/2018 6:42:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

well, that’s insane. if anyone believed in a utopian socialist world that would require his own genius to create, it was TJ; if he was alive today, he would be an extremist liberal democrat.


2 posted on 08/27/2018 6:50:32 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Kaslin

Barbary Pirates: Have to give Jefferson credit. He sent our fledgling Navy and Marines out to do a job even the British weren’t willing to take on (mind you, they were a bit occupied with a certain Corsican French Artillery officer). And that despite hundreds of years of slave raids by the same Muslims along the coasts of Britain and her islands, and from her merchant vessels.


3 posted on 08/27/2018 6:58:21 AM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: JohnBrowdie

The Bill of Rights was about freedom for the individual. Not socialism. The Bill of Rights protected the individual from the Government. Liberal in those days meant Liberty. Not socialism.


4 posted on 08/27/2018 7:00:40 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: katana

The Berbers agreed to stop their crap and went right back to it when we resumed hostilities against Britain. Their word is no good. Since it’s only a matter of time again my 20-20 vision says we should have bombed Saddam back into the stone age and promised to come back. But then The Iranians would have appreciated it more.


5 posted on 08/27/2018 7:07:29 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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Hobo nickels MAGA


6 posted on 08/27/2018 7:15:24 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: evets

Funny how there’s a strong resemblance to Trump in at least two of those.


7 posted on 08/27/2018 8:56:29 AM PDT by Boomer (Beware The Obsessed Leftist Pit Bull Hater Threads on FR. Same as Gun Grabbers.)
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To: Kaslin

Trump’s done nothing wrong.

Paying what amounts to lunch money for him to a low rent shakedown artist from the nearest pole dance operation isn’t a crime on his part, it’s hers.

And going back through all his business deals and returns for the last 25 years is bound to find errors that mean nothing. A guy worth $10 billion has crap like that all the time because NO ONE can comply with the absurd, contradictory regulations vomited out by the bureaucracy that can’t even answer questions about their own stuff.

This is all Gorilla Dust: The Clinton Gang throwing up crap to try to distract everyone from the truth: Bill and Hill are guilty of FAR WORSE.


8 posted on 08/27/2018 1:46:01 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Kaslin

Too bad Jefferson was a freethinker who supported the French Revolution.


9 posted on 08/27/2018 6:47:34 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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bump


10 posted on 08/27/2018 6:57:09 PM PDT by foreverfree
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