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There are ‘dalliances’ and then there are severe descents into criminal debauchery. If JFK raped a young girl in the WH, took her virginity, and forced her to perform fellatio, then he is a devil and deserves to be expunged from history.

But we don’t know the character of his failings.

Bill Clinton was a predator, proven and possibly a rapist. Because he was proven to be a person that saw no boundary for himself in the Oval Office, we are allowed to think the worst in him.

Donald Trump is not a saint but his record shows he took care of all those he had relations with. We do not know if the recent prostitutes are telling the truth about him And there is nothing sinister in his past to make us think it was as bad as Clinton’s behavior.

Truman, Eisenhower, LBJ had their discreet mistresses. Nixon I don’t know about. Carter, Reagan, GW Bush appear to have been chaste. Obama is a mystery.

We have a fair understanding that JFK had relations with Marilyn Monroe. JFK was exceedingly handsome. Monroe was exceedingly seductive. It’s not rocket science to predict what likely happened.

But it seems far out of character to think JFK was a predatory monster like Clinton.

Would we like our leaders to be chaste and set good examples? Of course. But so long as it is not criminal and perverse, Americans are pragmatic and will agree that what happens in private is secondary to what happens in public.

What I see is certain Kennedy haters (and I share their vehemence toward Teddy) take the rumored failings of JFK and stretch those failings to their most sinister version. I believe there can be exaggerations. None of it is proven.

Clinton’s predatory acts were proven, there was no rumor to them.

But JFK’s are neither proven nor unproven.

Sticking with JFK vs. Clinton comparisons, their private dalliances were as disparate as their public accomplishments. Clinton wrecked Treasury finances and set the stage for the mortgage and financial market collapse with the signing of the repeal of Glass-Steagall. He sold out or incompetently lost sensitive rocket technology to the Chinese Communists, He recklessly entered the US into a Kosovo war that made no sense. He started the practice of allowing the Saudis to pay for the US military as a mercenary force. He had no leadership, he had megalomania, narcissist and sociopathic behavior and the example he set in office apart from the sexual scandals was that of a President who accomplished nothing and made the American people feel dirty and cheap.

In contrast, JFK stared down the Soviets in Cuba, opposed the CIA and their games in Cuba, faced off the criminal banksters behind the Federal Reserve (my issue), cut taxes, acted against bigoted racist democrats in the South, inspired scientists and engineers to work harder than ever to develop a cornucopia of innovations, demanded excellence in the WH, set a good example in public, won the begrudging respect of Kremlin hardliners, cut taxes, created a foundation for economic expansion and increased prosperity, and checked Soviet influence in Southeast Asia without resorting to a huge senseless deployment of the US military as LBJ pursued. By all accounts, JFK was a very good President, very promising and most everyone agrees it is a shame he did not have the opportunity to make firm his reputation and legacy.

I will repeat that Trump. like Reagan, spoke glowingly of JFK. Our POTUS today is the best chance we have of shoving the hardcore left into the dustbin of history. He likes the imagery of JFK, he also liked young JFK Jr. greatly and has alluded to a possible hit on JFK Jr.’s plane which mysteriously fell out of the sky.

As far as classical liberalism. I’ll take one like Alan Dershowitz over a fake conservative like Ben Sasse any day of the week. I will not be pigeon-holed into broad categories of ideologies populated by charlatans. Corruptocrat Haley Barbour was a democrat who conveniently became a republican when the Reagan revolution was in full swing. To hell with party labels. I am moved only by records of faithful service, acknowledgment of the truth, to justice, and to how society is inspired and dignified by the performance of their leaders. Zell Miller has a higher rating in my home than does Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan or his drunk predecessor John Boehner. And what about that pedophile Dennis Hastert? The only reason to support the GOP is to have a Congress that will get behind this POTUS’s agenda.

Reagan was a democrat who woke up as a Republican because his industry had been taken over by debauched Stalinistic progressives.

Trump was a democrat and became a republican for much the same reason. He made it clear in his great speeches about the threat the left poses to Americans.

As for JFK, he was a very good President with rumors swirling about regarding his sexual exploits. But most are rumors. Milford’s testimony could be fiction or maybe not. She certainly did not seem to be as loathsome of JFK as Kathryn Wiley or Juanita Broaddrick were of Clinton.

The problem with these discussions is JFK is not here to defend himself. So why do this? Is this an exercise in who can act as the more raging lynch mob?

Why is this thread even posted? What’s the purpose? We know that Oswald was linked to the CIA. We know this from the recently declassified JFK documents. And who declassified those documents? President Trump did, why? And he’s not done. I believe he’s waiting for the elder Bush to pass before he exposes his role in the Dallas assassination.

So who would want Milford in the news today? There are those in the CIA who want the truth about the JFK assassination to be kept buried. And who hates POTUS today and is hellbent on taking him down? Rogue hybrids in CIA/FBI JTTF. And POTUS likes JFK, likes JFK Jr. and wants the truth out about Dallas. And here we see Milford in the news trying to butt into the conscience of viewers.

Don’t be a fool.