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President Trump, You Are No JFK
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2018 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 08/25/2018 7:16:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; LS

I thought Powell’s excuse was that the wife was against it.

I would liked to the first Black President to be a Republican. But as it turned out Powell is such an odious RINO, I don’t know if that would have been helpful to us in the long run “Look Republicans are so racist they attacking their own Black President”. Also he’s “pro-choice”, I question if he really could have been nominated, it would have torn the party apart.

As Obama is not descended from American Slaves, other than a allegedly distantly on his mother’s side, we still have the opportunity to elect the first real “African-American” President. Though potential candidates are scarce. Tim Scott obviously, but I’m not sure he has the right stuff.

Keyes.....should not have been nominated for the Senate here. He was chosen to lose badly and thus discredit conservatives. But he’s actually a good comparison to Obama, he would have needed fawning coverage to get elected, and so did Obama. In a better world Obama would have done better than Jesse Jackson but still been an also ran in the rat primaries. He of course was blessed by having Hillary Clinton as an opponent, a woman so hated even within her own party that she nearly lost to Bernie Sanders.


181 posted on 09/01/2018 7:07:23 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; LS; AuH2ORepublican; Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Alma Powell was against it because she (or they) believed he would be assassinated. No doubt he would’ve been an awful President and would’ve spent 4 years lining the government and judiciary with left-wingers. He probably would’ve lost reelection (if the GOP didn’t renominate him — RACISTS !) because Republicans would’ve sat out the 2000 election. Gore would’ve swept the election that year and the Dems would’ve had Congress back easily (the House in ‘98 and the Senate in 2000).

There has to be a magic and viability to a potential Black nominee. Dr. Ben Carson came close (he was the only other GOP candidate who led Trump in the race after he got in). I thought he was viable enough to be VP and groomed to succeed Trump. It would’ve been a baptism by fire to be sure. Sen. Tim Scott doesn’t have “it.” He’s an average Senator at best, but not a stand-out.

You’re right that Amb. Keyes should never have accepted the IL Sen. nomination. He was being cynically used by the corrupt Combine as a designated Conservative loser they had no intention of helping, let alone allowing to win.

In a better world, Sen. Pete Fitzgerald would’ve gone on to a second and third term as a corruption-fighter cleaning up IL politics. No, he was too dangerous. Seeing what was done to him gave us a taste of what is done to reformers like Trump. Absent Fitzgerald, it should’ve been Coach Mike Ditka. I think Ditka would’ve been strong enough that he would’ve carried the outstate and held Zero’s margin in Crook (sic) County to 60-40%.


182 posted on 09/01/2018 7:51:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: ealgeone

If only we had a time machine.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GTc_j6sqkxA


183 posted on 09/01/2018 8:23:59 PM PDT by wgmalabama (The government murdered Robert LaVoy Finicum - what makes you think you are not next?)
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t fond of JFK for backstabbing the Cuban freedom fighters at Bay of Pigs, and I also wasn’t happy that he didn’t go far enough to ensure Cuba remained free (though at least we don’t have nukes pointed at us, so that’s a good thing, and to be fair, we still won in our own way due to having our nuke launch centers being a bit more “mobile” due to nuclear submarines, meaning we no longer needed the missile silos in Turkey anyway). And I do find it contemptible that he advocated for socialized medicine as well, and his basically capitulating to Khrushchev (of course, that being said, I’ve also heard that Khrushchev wasn’t too happy about the results of Cuba, one of his aides apparently making several blunt demands that they “kill the viper and his millionaire whore” or something). I also wasn’t fond of his pushing that missile gap thing (though to be fair, Johnson and even Nixon pushed it).

But I will give JFK some credit: At least he, unlike his brothers (ESPECIALLY Ted Kennedy), actually ATTEMPTED to fight Communism, rather than being perfectly willing to sell America out to the Soviets simply to prevent a Republican from becoming President or at best retreat from fighting them, and he’s also one of the few Democrats who actually DID try to back up Joe McCarthy during his attempt at naming names and helping him out. And at least HE cut taxes and actually TRIED to promote America rather than denigrate it, or sell out our technology to our enemies in exchange for campaign cash. That alone makes him FAR better than Clinton or Obama, heck, better than Carter even, probably better than FDR. Heck, I would actually find it very unlikely that JFK would have ever supported abortion. He’s definitely not even close to a good Catholic, but he is STILL a Catholic, and I’m extremely doubtful that if he takes his faith even somewhat seriously, he would support it. I know Martin Sheen, who is Catholic and extremely Liberal on various issues, absolutely refused to back Barack Obama precisely because he’s so pro-Abortion. I’m pretty sure JFK would have refused to back Obama for that reason alone as well. But I do ultimately agree, Trump is ultimately a far better President than JFK, heck, I’d even argue that Nixon would have made a better president during that time than JFK.

And since someone mentioned the theory that the CIA and Bush had been responsible for JFK’s assassination, I want to take the time to make clear that, no, they were not. As a matter of fact, it’s unlikely that the CIA, Bush, or, heck, even LBJ was responsible for his death (and I absolutely loathe LBJ for his mishandling Vietnam and his Great Society programs and think he’s one corrupt jerk, so if I say he’s not responsible, you can bet that he’s not responsible.). If I hold ANYONE responsible, besides Lee Harvey Oswald I mean, for JFK’s death, it was either the Soviets or the Cubans. Ion Mihai Pacepa certainly thinks so, as does the guy who wrote the article above and, heck, even Markus Wolfe, aka the East German spymaster. A couple of things to remember:

1. Regarding the CIA, the CIA, even if they were to hate JFK for trying to call off their wetworks missions, would not try to risk the national security of the country they serve to put a hit on him. And even if they did have a murderous hatred of him, I’m pretty sure they’d do so without it being very public (like, I don’t know, put poison into his food and cover his death as him dying in his sleep.). Plus, their surveillance of Oswald suggested that Oswald was going to head for either Cuba or the USSR based on his passport renewal, making it extremely unlikely Oswald was under their employ. Besides, barring revenge, what exactly would they have to gain by assassinating JFK?

2. George HW Bush at that time would have been small-fry politically (heck, I’m not even sure he was even CIA at the time either), so there’s very little to indicate he’d have anything to gain for Bush being assassinated.

3. LBJ, I’ll admit is corrupt to the core and definitely one of our worst presidents, and heck, he may have even murdered his own sister, but I doubt even he would have assassinated JFK, even WITH his potentially going to prison. For one thing, the whole line of succession amendment to the Constitution was not even in place yet, and ironically enough, it was formed AFTER JFK was assassinated. And even if it were in place, LBJ probably would have thought of various ways besides murder that could get JFK thrown out of office and replace him. If I were in his position and I had his conniving and corrupt nature, I’d probably leak a story to the press revealing that JFK slept with an East German Spy, with the scandal ensuing that would have JFK basically thrown out in impeachment trials, also bribing some Democrat senators into turning against him, and then I’d basically take over. All without using a bullet to his brain. So, yeah, I find it extremely unlikely that LBJ had him assassinated, even with my utter disgust for the man.

Now, with the Soviets and the Cubans, there’s a pretty extensive paper trail leading to them, including the Mitoken Archives and testimony from Ion Mihai Pacepa, including some details about the disinformation op regarding the Kennedy Assassination called Operation Dragon. And I wouldn’t put it past the Soviets, or, heck, the Chinese even, to be the types to engineer a nuclear war. Che Guevara certainly attempted it.


184 posted on 10/29/2018 7:17:36 AM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

Oh yeah, I forgot one other thing: I certainly wasn’t fond of JFK essentially shilling for the United Nations, as that was just a backdoor to Marxist takeover of the United States.

Actually I probably could think of quite a few things I’d do differently if I were in his shoes. Namely, I’d be very much a hardliner against Communism, and Bay of Pigs would end with Castro’s ouster, period, no exceptions, even give the call for fire support (and by consequence, I probably won’t need to worry about a Cuban Missile Crisis, and we wouldn’t need to do an embargo on Cuba either.). I’d also make sure that any supreme court justice nominee who even THINKS of trying to make abortion or contraceptives the law of the land is not only not nominated, but also disbarred from his job (like Kennedy, I’m also Catholic). I’d implement policies that bar any Communists from entering government positions, and even go as far as to do extensive background checks to make SURE they aren’t simply posing as someone else. I’d keep Diem in power and make clear to the voters back at home that it’s ultimately in the best interest of Vietnam, making clear that we can’t rely on Jeffersonian Democracy as that would ultimately aid in the Soviet expansion. I’d probably also dismantle the UN, citing that the key founders were Marxists, and also make very clear that, while a world without war is admirable, we need a better means of doing so, something which ALL branches of government can legally agree to. If Communism is Moby Dick, I’d probably be more like Captain Ahab. Probably the only thing I’d do the same as him is remove Turkey missile silos (though there it would been even more obvious I was simply doing it because they’re effectively obsolete due to nuclear subs) and I’d probably also do the whole “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”, and even there, I’d mean more patriotism than big government.


185 posted on 10/29/2018 7:32:05 AM PDT by otness_e
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