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To: DouglasKC

Here’s the problem with this. If you go the legal and ethical route, then the ‘Juan’ you end up with, will require regular pay and social security/medicare. Maybe someone with insight to the pay business will jump into this discussion, but I would imagine the legal ‘Juan’ would cost you 30-percent more. You go and lay out the farm income and the man-hours required, and it’s a tough balancing act to survive as a farmer these days.

I do agree, we ought to go and operate a simple work-visa program where a ‘Juan’ does everything legal, has the paperwork, and the farmer can feel happy over the pay and work requirements. But I’ll add this comment...right now, it’s very possible that you’d end up with some Honduran kid who is 14 years old and you get in serious child-labor issues because of the open door mess and our approach to the whole worker concept.


33 posted on 08/22/2018 8:36:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

We have that and it’s called the H2A worker program. Farmers contract with a broker to supply the workers. Here in eastern Washington the orchardists are required to build suitable housing and their typically hiring between 50-100 workers.

I have been contracted to design several water systems for theses units. All of these units have to be approved by the State Health Department. The workers get transported to town once a week to buy their own food and necessities. Some farmers even provide large recreational yards for these workers that include soccer fields, basketball courts, and BBQ areas. At the end of the season (end of October) they send them home.


56 posted on 08/22/2018 10:10:25 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: pepsionice

Sir, your are partially correct: “The Legal Juan would cost your hypothetical employer 30% More”! Yes and the Illegal Juan simply costs the TAXPAYER 30% more!

It is the Taxpayer who pays when Juan is sick and requires medical care! It is the Taxpayer that is cheated out of the Income Tax and MEDICARE that “Illegal Juan” does not pay! It is the State and Local Taxpayer who fund for Juan’s kids medical care and education!

All so this Big Corporate Farm can make more profit by hiring Illegals! Everyone working at that farm knew he was Illegal and said nothing!

Every Illegal Alien is cheating an American Citizen out of his fair working wage while the American Taxpayer covers the cost for Unemployment and Welfare for the American Worker!

The only winner in this story is the Corporate Farm Owner who made more profit while screwing his fellow countrymen!


63 posted on 08/22/2018 10:54:49 AM PDT by Gunner TLW
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