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Theologians, lay leaders call for mass resignations of US bishops.
National Catholic Reporter ^ | Aug 17, 2018 | Heidi Schlumpf

Posted on 08/19/2018 3:25:30 PM PDT by O6ret

More than 140 theologians, educators and lay leaders have called for all U.S. bishops to submit their resignations to Pope Francis, much like Chile's 34 bishops did in May after revelations of sexual abuse and corruption, as a public act of penance and a "willing abdication of earthly status." "Today, we call on the Catholic Bishops of the United States to prayerfully and genuinely consider submitting to Pope Francis their collective resignation as a public act of repentance and lamentation before God and God's People," said a statement, posted in English and Spanish on the Daily Theology blog on Friday.


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To: AlaskaErik

BTW, as i mentioned to another poster, do you allow your kids or grandkids to attend public schools? Because they are far more likely to be molested there than in a catholic church, in case you don’t know.

So, I assume if they are, that you’ll take your own advice and send them to private school or start home schooling them.


41 posted on 08/20/2018 4:02:59 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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To: moonhawk

My argument is that the Church Jesus speaks of is NOT in fact Rome.

Why? Because Rome is teaching its people the exact opposite of what Jesus and the Apostles taught.

It’s bad enough that they’re forcing you to take Communion from the hand of a child molester if he’s the one assigned to you... in contradiction of St. Paul.

What happens when he and his ilk start forcing you to approve of the homosexual agenda on pain of excommunication if you refuse?


42 posted on 08/20/2018 6:19:53 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: moonhawk

Quick correction. The Church Jesus speaks of certainly includes Roman Catholics.

But from the definitions of Roman Catholic I’ve seen, the body is the Vatican is certainly no church, especially if A: it continues to demand submission to the Pope, and B: allows obviously evil men as Pope.

What kind of church commands its faithful to sin?


43 posted on 08/20/2018 6:25:06 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: AlaskaErik
Mine too. In the catholic caucus. I didn't even know it was limited to practicing catholics until I was asked to not participate. And I was even baptized in a catholic church and had my first communion. Catholic for life I am, I was told. But not catholic enough to post in their caucus. All my posts there were censored through deletion. That gives you an idea of the mindset of those who call themselves catholics.

I got the same treatment years ago.

I was actually posting something positive in support of a priest who had lost his job because he refused to compromise what he believed, but even that wasn't good enough.

They kicked me out because of who I was and said as much.

44 posted on 08/20/2018 6:57:01 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk; AlaskaErik
And Satan only attacks his enemies, not his friends— those who are already in his power.

Satan has no friends.

He only has tools, and the Catholic church is full of them.

As long as they are doing the damage he wants, he's going to leave them alone.

When he's done with them, he'll destroy them too.

45 posted on 08/20/2018 7:02:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk; AlaskaErik
Christ will win in the end, count on it.

Catholics keep saying that.

There's no evidence whatsoever that the Holy Spirit or Christ is protecting the Catholic church from anything.

Matter of fact, since the Catholic church has allowed this kind of corruption and immorality to go unchecked for so long, I don't see that Christ will do anything but remove the church, just like He did in the book of Revelation.

Waiting for Jesus to fix this mess is just wishful thinking on your part.

The only thing the Roman Catholic church has coming and deserves for the mess that it has enabled for so many years, is God's judgment.

WHY would you all expect Christ to protect an organization that has hidden systematic abuse of children for decades, if not centuries?

46 posted on 08/20/2018 7:07:36 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk; AlaskaErik
I could paint you with as broad a brush, but I won’t stoop to your level. What you should know is that the Communists from the thirtie on have planted gays and straight commies into the seminaries with the idea of corrupting the church fom within.

This has been a problem in Catholicism for over 1,000 years.

This is NOT a recent phenomena.

St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah: Homosexual Situation Graver than Damian's Time

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/929551/posts

47 posted on 08/20/2018 7:09:43 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk

“Jesus promised that the gates of Hell would not prevail against his Church.”

The RCC ceased having much to do with Jesus quite a while ago it would seem. He didn’t leave them. They left Him.

L


48 posted on 08/20/2018 7:10:39 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: moonhawk; AlaskaErik
Francis is not the whole church. We’ve survived worse.

Ah yes, the old standby.

What makes you think the church is going to survive this?

You said that Christ would sin in the end.

THAT is true, but it may be by destroying the Catholic church since they refuse to purge the evil among them themselves.

Scripture tells us how to deal with immorality and sexual sin in the church.

It'd be nice if they followed the book they claim to have written.

1 Corinthians 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

49 posted on 08/20/2018 7:14:19 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Luircin

CHrist’s bride is holy.

Roman Catholicism is as far from that as you can get and has been for centuries.

The *church* has managed to stay around for as long as it has, not because Christ is protecting such a den of iniquity, but because Satan is.

Satan is getting too much mileage out of the Catholic church. Not only is he destroying lives on such a massive scale for centuries, he’s doing it in the name of Christ.

A greater abomination cannot exist that those who name the name of Christ and claim to be alter Christos should be such purveyors of abuse and immorality.

Christ said that by their fruits you would know them. The fruit of Catholicism tells you whose it is. And it isn’t Christ’s.


50 posted on 08/20/2018 7:22:46 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk; Luircin

Most people misinterpret that verse.

Besides, gates are defensive and what Christ is saying is that when the church goes forward in power, then the defenses of the enemy cannot stand against it.

Instead, the Roman Catholic church has become the gates of hell.


51 posted on 08/20/2018 7:25:45 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: moonhawk

Another white washer.

*Others are worse, so see, we’re not so bad.*

Disgusting........


52 posted on 08/20/2018 7:26:42 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Luircin; AlaskaErik

No doubt there are some true believers in the Catholic organization. Some people who are the true church, just as there are some in every congregation.

But the organization as a whole? Forget it.

It is not any body of Christ. Unless they want to try to convince us that Christ would condone what has been going on for most of its history.

And that’s not happening.

They have forfeited the right to call themselves Christian.

I have to figure out what to call them as I find it hard to use the term *church* to describe the Roman Catholic organization.


53 posted on 08/20/2018 7:30:17 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom

You’re not very bright, are you? I was returning the suggestion to watch out for ones kids. Guess you missed that, huh?


54 posted on 08/20/2018 11:07:19 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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To: Luircin

Nobody’s forcing anybody to take anything.


55 posted on 08/20/2018 11:10:58 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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To: Campion

Right, correct this is the hidden agenda. Let the American church leadership resign in disgrace and Francis will prayer fully and sadly dismiss them and replace them with social justice warriors. He will destroy the American church.


56 posted on 08/21/2018 4:56:18 AM PDT by joegoeny ("Nuts!")
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To: moonhawk

And here I thought that Mass was a requirement for salvation for Catholics.

And calling someone stupid? Tsk tsk. Once again, it’s the Catholic who resorts to personal attacks first.


57 posted on 08/21/2018 9:53:36 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Really?—I was called disgusting first, and an ostrich. And yes, Mass is required, but receiving the Body of Christ is not,(though of course it is an essential part of our Salvation) and we can choose which church to attend.

Anyway, I not going to re-fight the Deformation, and won’t respond to any more click-bait posts.


58 posted on 08/21/2018 4:26:41 PM PDT by moonhawk (My Basket of Deplorable is Irredeemably mired in the Swamp of Crazy.)
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