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Chicago Is Next To Look At The Universal Basic Income
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| 08/11/2018
| Jazz Shaw
Posted on 08/11/2018 5:49:58 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
It’s the year of the Democratic Socialist and that means that some relatively crazy ideas are all the rage. One of the biggest is the dream-like vision of a society where you get paid whether you work or not. It’s known as universal basic income (UBI) and it fits in nicely with the idea of each according to his needs. Can it work in the United States, particularly in some of our cash-strapped major cities? We may find out soon enough because Chicago is looking at giving it a go. (Free Beacon)
Officials in Chicago want to test the waters of offering a universal basic income.
A majority of city council members are telling Mayor Rahm Emanuel to form a task force to look into Universal Basic Income programs, which is essentially a periodic check from the government with no strings attached.
The City Council wants to explore a program that would send at least $500 a month to 1,000 Chicago families. The same families also would get Earned Income Tax Credit money on a monthly basis rather than once a year.
47th Ward Ald. Ameya Pawars resolution said the money would “help working people and families become more resilient to day-to-day financial emergencies, are able to make rent, cover childcare, and put food on the table.”
If this was actually a program which qualified as true UBI (more on that in a moment), it would be a miracle if it got off the ground. As John recently reported, Ontario tried a three-year program and after just one year they gave up. If it was because the program was going broke or people were abusing it remains up for debate, but they abandoned the idea. Heck, it even failed in Finland, a place where they have actual socialism. But the dream lives on, I guess.
Chicago’s plan might last a bit longer, however, assuming they’ve lined up some combination of public and private funding for the initial run. The reason is that they’re only talking about 1,000 families in the pilot program and they would be receiving $500 per month. So that’s half a million per month or six million per year. That’s a lot of money to the average individual but even the wreckage of Chicago’s budget should be able to cough that up.
But is it really Universal Basic Income? In what corner of the progressive universe does $500 per month qualify as “income?” Most of them scream bloody murder if you’re not paying the kid asking you if you “want fries with that” fifteen bucks an hour. Five hundred dollars won’t even pay your rent in most cities, even if you live in less than modest conditions. And that doesn’t begin to touch needing to do things like keeping the lights turned on and having food in the fridge.
The other question which leaps to mind is how everyone else who is below the poverty level will react when they find out that an exclusive handful of people are getting these checks but they’re still stuck out in the cold. You can see some social complications arising.
The fact is that if you are giving out free money, some percentage of the people will put it to good use while they continue to strive to get ahead. But it’s equally true that another percentage of the population, having been relieved of some of the worries of earning a living, will rest in the safety net as comfortably as they can manage while doing as little as possible. Sorry to point this out, but it’s just human nature.
But hey, Chicago… you go for it. Let us all know how it works out.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: basicincome; chicago; socialism; welfare
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To: SeekAndFind
How in the world are they going to pay for that?
With food stamps? Share the pensions?
To: SeekAndFind
Chicago and California should try this! And throw in Single Payer Government Health Care and abolish the police, and guns, and legalize all drugs, and pedophilia, and not only allow but recruit voting for all illegal aliens! Crazy you say? All of this is on the “secret” agenda of today’s Progressive-Socialists. Maduro, here we come!
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:21:00 PM PDT
by
Richard Axtell
(So, this is the Third World! What happened to the first two?)
To: fhayek
That’s one probable outcome.
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:24:14 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
(Fill in my standard rant.)
To: SeekAndFind
first, what a rogues gallery of losers. Any one could pay a bit part in a National Lampoon film (guy on left:” the car isn’t the same one he ordered, sir.”
second, they’d have to have a scoring system like in the David Carradine film Death Race 2000.
Certain points for offing a rival and you get his money. If you name a victim and miss him by Monday morning he gets your money.
Guaranteed income for all if more than 40 murders happen between Friday night and Monday.(Like getting free stuff at a burger joint if your baseball team hits three home runs in a game).
Due to reparations, only blacks get the income and whites pay the taxes for it. If you argue with that let’s just say that in Chicago that aint healthy.
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:31:20 PM PDT
by
frank ballenger
(End noncitizen & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
To: Cowgirl of Justice
How in the world are they going to pay for that? Two ways come to mind.
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:31:26 PM PDT
by
C210N
(Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
To: SeekAndFind
How else is Chicago going to launder money for Crips/Bloods/MS-13 to get their voters to the polls.
To: Richard Axtell
Who leaked the 2020 Democrat Platform to you????
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:32:21 PM PDT
by
frank ballenger
(End noncitizen & illegals voting & leftist media news censorship or we're finished.)
To: Cowgirl of Justice
RE: How in the world are they going to pay for that?
For a city like Chicago that cannot print money? I can only think of two ways — TAXES and DEBT.
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:38:01 PM PDT
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: kingu
Don’t you know that nobody crawls out of poverty? You’re either born privileged or still poor and on welfare. You can’t get anywhere without the govt’s help, lol
It’s part of the Dem Creed!
To: SeekAndFind
The RATS can do nothing but DESTROY CITIES so now they will try to BUY their job security.
Total crap.
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posted on
08/11/2018 6:50:37 PM PDT
by
EagleUSA
To: SeekAndFind
What is needed is JOBS.
Not moire handouts.
The crux of the problem is young black men with no jobs or responsibilities hanging out on the streets 24/7.
They were raised on welfare money and have little or no history or experience of family members being employed.
They have babies but walk away and the government takes care of the mamas and the babies.
So these leftist numbnuts want to give them more money so they can continue to hang out on the streets, shirk responsibility and shoot people for kicks and giggles.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:00:38 PM PDT
by
Vlad The Inhaler
(Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke)
To: SeekAndFind
The gangbangers can buy more ammo with the money.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:05:21 PM PDT
by
Old Yeller
(Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin; SeekAndFind; All
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HOW do the Socialist Democrats get ALL of these uninformed, lazy, ignorant people to the polls?
I mean, theyre basically PAID to be lay-a-bouts 364 days out of the year, yet they somehow MUSTER the energy and stamina to GET OFF THE COUCH on Election Day, then are bused or take public transportation to their local Polling Place to VOTE?
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You mean 365. W/ mail-in/”absentee” voting, one need only waste the effort to check all the (D), place the (I’ll presume) govt provided stamp and swap the “govt” (aka taxpayer) check w/ the ballot.
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Ill never understand it...unless...these bought and paid for VOTERS are told to just give up all of their DATA and THE PARTY will do the rest while the EBT card keeps getting re-charged each an every month?
Man, Oh, Man! Why havent Republicans figured out that SCAM?
*SPIT*
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Ha! As if the (R) actually care about their platform (esp. after their last ‘budget’) or ‘smaller govt’ of their platform (being the progenitors of the NSA, TSA, TARP, etc.)...
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:09:30 PM PDT
by
i_robot73
(One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
To: SeekAndFind
But they can’t afford any such nonsense.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:17:52 PM PDT
by
Robert357
( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
To: SeekAndFind
The epitome of bad ideas. Idle hands are the Devil’s playground.
Humans are designed to have purpose. In most of us, that means making a meaningful contribution, somehow - usually in the form of work and earning an income.
Take that away? Bad idea.
They have not thought through the consequences of their “good intentions.”
To: SeekAndFind
I think I know what the result will be, but hey, people have to learn the hard way ( or as Santayana said REPEAT HISTORY ). Of course there will be no learning here. The leaches will take the $500 and spend it on lottery tickets, cigarettes, booze and what ever.
UBI is very similar to an existing program, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families TANF where families are given cash.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:30:28 PM PDT
by
upchuck
(When I first arrived in Washington, the extent of anger and partisanship stunned me. ~ CongressmanX)
To: SeekAndFind
Not going to happen. There is no money.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:37:46 PM PDT
by
poinq
To: SeekAndFind
Oh, and bye the way, giving people money gives them more time to loiter and join gangs and do drugs. Money for nothing causes crime. It does not reduce crime. You would have men sitting around not working getting some small amout which they will use to buy drugs. And then they will have lots of time on their hands to do all their gang activities to get extra money.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:40:42 PM PDT
by
poinq
To: BigEdLB
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:41:59 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(I have already previewed this composition.)
To: SeekAndFind
From the piece...
But is it really Universal Basic Income? In what corner of the progressive universe does $500 per month qualify as income? Most of them scream bloody murder if youre not paying the kid asking you if you want fries with that fifteen bucks an hour. Five hundred dollars wont even pay your rent in most cities, even if you live in less than modest conditions. And that doesnt begin to touch needing to do things like keeping the lights turned on and having food in the fridge. And this does illustrate quite nicely one of the major failures of socialism.
The "according to his need" part will can never, ever actually be achieved.
"Need" is defined by the Immanuels and the Ayers and the Clintons, and is barely subsistence living, if even that.
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posted on
08/11/2018 7:51:21 PM PDT
by
Seaplaner
(Never give in-never, never,never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. Winston Churchill)
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