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Smartphones or pen and paper? Cybersecurity experts split on tech in voting
NBC ^ | 10AUG18 | Alyssa Newcomb

Posted on 08/10/2018 6:55:58 PM PDT by vannrox

Some of the brightest minds in cybersecurity want the U.S. voting system to embrace technology. Others want to keep tech as far away as possible.

LAS VEGAS — Some of the brightest minds in cybersecurity want the U.S. voting system to embrace technology. Others want to keep tech as far away as possible.

Election hacking was one of the main themes at Black Hat, a conference in Las Vegas this week that brought together thousands of ethical hackers to discuss cybersecurity threats and solutions.

Most cybersecurity experts at the conference fell into one of two camps. In the first are those who believe that the only way to make sure votes are not tampered with is to keep technology as far away as possible. They recommend using paper and pen until the U.S. government steps in with a unified policy.

“I think we should be thinking hard about analog elections until we get that digital policy,” said Nate Fick, CEO of the security company Endgame.

Fick’s company is in charge of securing what are known in the cybersecurity world as “endpoints” — laptops, workstations and anything else that connects to a network. Voting machines are also endpoints. While Fick said Endgame theoretically could help secure voting machines, he believes “there is no perfect defense” when it comes to safeguarding elections.

“I don’t think government policy is sufficiently well-developed right now to protect our elections, bottom line, so relying on digital election infrastructure before we have the government policy in place to safeguard it is asking for trouble,” he said.

The other camp sees things differently. With advances in technology that can help verify identity and location, they argue U.S. elections could be drastically improved.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; fraud; hack; voting

1 posted on 08/10/2018 6:55:58 PM PDT by vannrox
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John Lott wrote an article about a decade ago stating that touch-screen voting, in which the votes are tabulated into Read-only Memory (ROM) cards, are the best way to ensure voter integrity.

There is no need for paper ballots. A ROM card cannot be hacked, it is not connected to the Internet, it is a dummy chip per se.

2 posted on 08/10/2018 6:59:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GOAT POTUS TRUMP)
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I bet some will say those Soros owned voting machines are more secure than paper ballots.

Have you ever looked at the commentary at NBC News facebook page? Stocked to the rafters with hard leftist trolls. Every subject gets the “Trump’s fault” treatment.


3 posted on 08/10/2018 7:00:45 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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Hacking endpoints is a concern of course, but also a red herring. It doesn't stop fradusters from standing at an endpoint and casting fradulent votes. It doesn't stop them from monkeying with the tallies. It doesn't stop them from intimidating legitimate voters. It doesn't stop corrupt precincts from getting 100% turnout or 100% for one candidate.

Most of all technology doesn't solve the voter registration problem. Voter ID doesn't solve that problem either. There simply is no way to stop people from registering fraudulently multiple times in multiple jurisdictions. There are plausible tech solutions for that but hardly perfect and not currently being discussed.

4 posted on 08/10/2018 7:03:52 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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There should be no voting system that does not have a paper trail, or a physical audit trail. The old technology that’s been around for years of marking choices on paper that can be read with an optical reader is fast enough for counting, and provides a sheet of paper with each voters choices for audit purposes if needed.


5 posted on 08/10/2018 7:04:20 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
in which the votes are tabulated into Read-only Memory (ROM) cards

Unless there's one vote per "ROM card" and it is removed, read and verified on the spot, then it can be "hacked". That is because there will be an operating system to write to the card, write the wrong vote, write too many or too few. Also that OS will be complex and contain vulnerabilities.

6 posted on 08/10/2018 7:06:17 PM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And there is no inherent bio security.

Physical object, thumb print or dna swab permanently attached at time of vote., keep it around for the vote to be challenged.


7 posted on 08/10/2018 7:14:25 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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If banks and businesses use computers, they are safe.
DUMP the voting machines as they are NOT secure.


8 posted on 08/10/2018 8:16:48 PM PDT by Zathras
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PAPER!!! Anything else can be hacked. Worse, you cannot recount electronic votes. No integrity, no verification.


9 posted on 08/10/2018 9:34:10 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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....until a democrap finds a bag full she n the corner covered in dust that was overlooked.I think that all ballots should have a computer barcode that gets scanned only when you vote, and stored locally. That way when a crapload of over looked ballots pop up, outs simple to detect fraud.


10 posted on 08/10/2018 9:35:43 PM PDT by Bommer (Jesus is God! Deal with it.)
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Never heard of this guy, looked him up. He went to Harvard so he’s a security “expert” now. Oh and he spoke at the 2008 DNC with Oboma.


11 posted on 08/10/2018 9:36:16 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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