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Seattle Judge Blocks Release of Documents on How to Make Guns
Ammoland ^ | 2 August, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/04/2018 5:11:36 AM PDT by marktwain

Judge Robert Lasnik is a U.S. District Court judge in Seattle, Washington

Judge Robert Lasnik is a U.S. District Court judge in Seattle, Washington. He has issued a restraining order, forbidding Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed from releasing documents on the Internets that show how to make simple guns and gun parts with 3D printers.

The judge issued the restraining order as requested in a lawsuit filed against the federal government, for refusing to prevent the publication of the information. From seattletimes.com:

During the Tuesday hearing in Seattle, Eric Soskin, a lawyer for the U.S. Justice Department, said they reached the settlement to allow Defense Distributed to post the material online because the regulations were designed to restrict weapons that could be used in war, and the online guns were no different from the weapons that could be bought in a store.

Since the weapons “did not create a military advantage,” he told Lasnik, “how could the government justify regulating the data?”

But the judge countered, “There is a possibility of irreparable harm because of the way these guns can be made.”

In the Defense Distributed First Amendment case, the Obama administration claimed that computer code on how to build a simple single shot handgun was a military weapon that should be regulated under International  Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The regulations are designed to control the export of defense and military related technologies.

The current administration noted the arms supposedly regulated are already superseded by current military organizations all over the world. There is not a military in the world that does not have access to better military technology

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 3dprinting; banglist; firstamendment; guns; lawsuit; secondamendment
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To: marktwain

Samizdat.


21 posted on 08/04/2018 6:03:03 AM PDT by 'smith
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To: marktwain
The ability of one of 600 federal district judges to stop actions of the entire U.S. government has to stop.

It will stop when we, or our elected representatives in the executive branch, make it stop.

22 posted on 08/04/2018 6:07:14 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Tzimisce
So a paper onhow to build an atom bomb = legal.

I don't know how many people remember, but President Clinton declassified and released nuclear weapons designs. Designs that we had never used (but that would work) were deemed overclassified due to a military culture of secrecy and declassified. They were then released under FOIA requests. I have no objection to digital files on firearms, but I had a huge problem with releasing "inefficient" nuke plans.

23 posted on 08/04/2018 6:09:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Tzimisce

http://www.codeisfreespeech.com/


24 posted on 08/04/2018 6:15:59 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: marktwain

You can’t block what has probably been downloaded thousands of times already.

I wonder how many hard drives those files are already on.

Let’s see the feds go and search hundreds of millions of computers for them.


25 posted on 08/04/2018 6:19:42 AM PDT by puppypusher ( The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: bert
Get 'em while thery are hot!!

RIGHT HERE

26 posted on 08/04/2018 6:20:05 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: marktwain
The limp wristed hand wringing is irrelevant. The code is freely available HERE. These guys aren't going to back down just because some federal judgetard said so.
27 posted on 08/04/2018 6:24:37 AM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: joshua c
They have the power, they do not have the authority.

Zatso? He manifestly does have the power, he did it, didn't he?

28 posted on 08/04/2018 6:28:54 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: 'smith
Да!
29 posted on 08/04/2018 6:34:04 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: NorthMountain
It will stop when we, or our elected representatives in the executive branch, make it stop.

Bingo.

30 posted on 08/04/2018 6:35:24 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: Pollster1

It takes a goodly amount of tweaking to get a nuke to work. Something a government could do, but probably not a private concern trying to be clandestine about it, in this day in which satellites can spy and see caches of uranium and plutonium.

Also its consequences are a good way to get almost everybody hating you, whatever your cause was.


31 posted on 08/04/2018 6:36:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: marktwain
"Judge Robert Lasnik is a U.S. District Court judge in Seattle, Washington. He has issued a restraining order, forbidding Cody Wilson and Defense Distributed from releasing documents on the Internets that show how to make simple guns and gun parts with 3D printers obviously does not understand how the Internet works."

Sorry "Judge." You're several weeks too late.

http://www.codeisfreespeech.com/

32 posted on 08/04/2018 6:37:06 AM PDT by upchuck (As we head to the midterms, please (re)read Confessions of Congressman X - tinyurl.com/congressmanx)
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To: marktwain

You can bet your schumer that the “judge” already has his gun(s).


33 posted on 08/04/2018 6:38:14 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: puppypusher

Or try to prosecute someone — it will be pressed towards the USSC if so.


34 posted on 08/04/2018 6:38:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: null and void; AFPhys; AD from SpringBay; ADemocratNoMore; aimhigh; AnalogReigns; archy; ...
3-D Printer Ping!

Political power grows out of the nozzle of a 3-D Printer.

35 posted on 08/04/2018 6:41:38 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: upchuck

It’s all a proof-of-concept until someone comes up with a way to “3D print” using gun steel. For the same money, more clandestine weapons could be had on the street. And I would never try to even test fire a gun printed on any modern 3D printer unless I were dressed in serious protective garb. CAD machines and designs for samurai swords would probably serve my arming needs better.


36 posted on 08/04/2018 6:42:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: null and void

It’s all a proof-of-concept. One could better class something like this as a “consumer product” like BB guns are, even though a (perhaps a few) normal cartridge could be fired in one.


37 posted on 08/04/2018 6:46:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: upchuck
Sorry "Judge." You're several weeks too late.

The judge is much later than that. Websites such as www.cncguns.com have had similar sets of files available for years now. Goes back to well before the first 3-D printed handgun or AR-15 receiver. I'll bet the files have been shared through BitTorrent, too. By now, those files are on computers all over the globe.

38 posted on 08/04/2018 6:50:08 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: puppypusher
Let’s see the feds go and search hundreds of millions of computers for them.

Your proposal is acceptable...


39 posted on 08/04/2018 6:58:43 AM PDT by null and void (Equality is important, but quality is paramount.)
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To: marktwain

Just did a Torrent search and guess what ? LOL


40 posted on 08/04/2018 7:01:37 AM PDT by butlerweave
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