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Judge tosses out vehicle seizure law
Albuquerque Journal ^ | July 30, 2018 | Ryan Boetel

Posted on 08/02/2018 9:46:06 AM PDT by MeganC

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: albuquerque; apd; corruption; forfeiture; newmexico; seizure
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This is my synopsis from this story and other reports:

A Federal judge ruled that an Albuqerque Police Department (APD) scheme that stole vehicles, cash, and other property from innocent owners is unconstitutional because it required the innocent owners to prove their innocence. The case that brought this racketeering scheme before the court involved a woman whose car was seized by APD < OUTSIDE > of Albuquerque and in direct violation of New Mexico state law.

APD is on record at public meetings bragging about how this illegal program brought in millions of dollars in unchecked and ungoverned revenue every year and the seizure program was run entirely from revenues stolen from various owners.

The scheme particularly targeted the very low-income people who idiotically keep voting Democrat in Albuquerque and thereby keeping in power the very regime that abuses their rights and conspires to steal from them.

A previous article (at the end of my comment) notes that the APD acknowledged that their criminal scheme to steal property from people without due process was illegal but they continued to do it anyway.

I know I'm going to offend the Blue Line Worshippers here but would someone explain to me why these thieves with badges deserve any protection when they're KNOWINGLY committing armed robbery every time they carry out an illegal seizure?

Also, no comment from the APD that they're going to stop stealing from people and many comments on various sites would indicate that unless Federal or State law enforcement starts arresting the sworn car thieves of the APD that these criminals won't stop.

1 posted on 08/02/2018 9:46:06 AM PDT by MeganC
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To: MeganC

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/12/22/albuquerque-concedes-forfeiture-was-illegal-continues-with-illegal-forfeitures/?utm_term=.92d5d099b157


2 posted on 08/02/2018 9:46:27 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: MeganC

I’ve always said that more thieves wear suits and ties than face masks. Not a few of them hide behind blue shields as well.


3 posted on 08/02/2018 9:49:39 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: MeganC

It is theft. Those who passed and signed the law are criminals. Those who enforce it are thiefs.

I don’t back down from my statements. That is absolutely right.


4 posted on 08/02/2018 10:01:08 AM PDT by I want the USA back (This week's hypocritical hysteria: Manafort/Russia Probe again!)
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To: I want the USA back

EVERY police officer who PARTICIPATED in ANY of those criminal acts needs to be CHARGED with using a weapon IN A FELONY!


5 posted on 08/02/2018 10:07:24 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: I want the USA back

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I have no printer, but I downloaded all 10 to show support for the First Amendment.


6 posted on 08/02/2018 10:09:11 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: I want the USA back

I have yet read where any police official came out against this illegal confiscation .


7 posted on 08/02/2018 10:13:42 AM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: MeganC

I hope this cascades through all 57 states.


8 posted on 08/02/2018 10:14:08 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: MeganC

I know I’m going to offend the Blue Line Worshippers here but would someone explain to me why these thieves with badges deserve any protection when they’re KNOWINGLY committing armed robbery every time they carry out an illegal seizure?


I can answer that:

Cops are like black people. That is, there are good ones and bad ones. And if you judge all black people by the actious of some, you are not only being racist but, more important, you are engaging in Identity Politics (IP). In fact, all racism, secism, and the other isms are, at the end of the day, IP.

I believe there are a LOT of bad cops. I remember that when I’m dealing with one. But I also know that there are a lot of good ones. And frankly, I think becoming “bad” is actually one of the risks of taking the job. Power corrupts, and all that...


9 posted on 08/02/2018 10:16:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: MeganC

“I know I’m going to offend the Blue Line Worshippers here but would someone explain to me why these thieves with badges deserve any protection when they’re KNOWINGLY committing armed robbery every time they carry out an illegal seizure?”

It is, exactly what you call it, theft under color of authority. What leaves me wondering, is why the Federal Judge didn’t refer the matter for prosecution? Personally, I’m tired of various political entities passing unconstitutional laws and only get their “laws” declared as such when they result in the illegal confiscation of personal property and/or the illegal prosecution of those they have targeted. It’s long past time when these acts, when discovered, result in prosecutions of those who wrote the laws, as well as those who implemented them.


10 posted on 08/02/2018 10:17:31 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: MeganC

“I know I’m going to offend the Blue Line Worshippers here but would someone explain to me why these thieves with badges deserve any protection when they’re KNOWINGLY committing armed robbery every time they carry out an illegal seizure?”

It is, exactly what you call it, theft under color of authority. What leaves me wondering, is why the Federal Judge didn’t refer the matter for prosecution? Personally, I’m tired of various political entities passing unconstitutional laws and only get their “laws” declared as such when they result in the illegal confiscation of personal property and/or the illegal prosecution of those they have targeted. It’s long past time when these acts, when discovered, result in prosecutions of those who wrote the laws, as well as those who implemented them.


11 posted on 08/02/2018 10:17:33 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: I want the USA back

I agree. I’ve even heard that one of the ways they get around the law is by actually “arresting” the asset. Court documents will say things like “State of [enter state name here] vs 2017 red corvette.

Seriously. That’s just weird.

It is downright Sovietesque that if you have $15,000 on you, you need to worry about the police finding out. That’s a banana republic or dictatorship thing.


12 posted on 08/02/2018 10:18:41 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: MeganC

Albuquerque...wonder if Jimmy McGill will run any ads looking to represent victims of vehicle confiscation, now that the elder law thing apparently has gone south.


13 posted on 08/02/2018 10:21:57 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: I want the USA back
"It is theft. Those who passed and signed the law are criminals. Those who enforce it are thiefs."

All true

However those who write, pas and sign such laws for the most part belong to the lawyer cartel and they benefit the most from such laws. The lawyer cartel extends throughout our government from the lowest level to the highest.

14 posted on 08/02/2018 10:23:23 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: cuban leaf

In the case of the APD I can say that * every single APD cop “ who performed one of these seizures is an armed robber.

Every last one of them, bar none, is an unprosecuted felon.

The only possible good cops on the APD are the ones who never performed one of these illegal seizure/robberies.

And that’s going to be a very, very short list.


15 posted on 08/02/2018 10:27:46 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: sevlex

There aren’t 57 States, there are 59. Remember, One doesn’t campaign in Alaska or Hawall


16 posted on 08/02/2018 10:31:02 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Hate is the new Love... ~ hug a snowflake)
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To: MeganC
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17 posted on 08/02/2018 10:35:33 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: MeganC

I agree.

BTW, Jordan Peterson has an interesting take on this whole concept. He makes the argument that if you were to take any American or Canadian, at random, off the street, and press a button and suddenly they were born in Germany and they are reaching their prime in the early 30’s, they would likely be a Nazi. Almost guaranteed, actually.

He was commenting on how difficult it would be to NOT follow the crowd, under such circumstances.

This is why I’m both a huge proponent of home schooling, and tend to take a “there but for circumstance go I” attitude toward the modern young leftists. Don’t get me wrong, If they were to come after me like the Nazis came after the Jews, I’d still have to shoot them, but I’d feel bad about it later. ;)


18 posted on 08/02/2018 10:40:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf

There are places where the culture embraces malfeasance in office as one of the benefits of ‘public service’. In Louisiana , for example, men wanted to become police or sheriff’s officers in order to use their badge to make money. This was implicitly encouraged by paying ridiculously low salaries and older cops telling younger ones to ‘get out there and make some money’ in response to complaints about wages. Malfeasance as a way of life may be less common yhan in the past but there are enough documented cases that shows the mentality is still around. The state police operating west of Lake Charles frequently stopped expensive autos on I-12 for no real reason (’Sir your car was wobbling. That could indicate narcotics hidden in special compartments. We are going to take your car for a through examination at the police garage.) There followed some kangaroo court hearing with a magistrate in which ‘sufficient cause’ was found to seize the vehicle. The costs of fighting this process was so high most individuals just signed the agreement to have their car taken and were not charged with any ‘violations’. To their credit 48 Hours did a long segment on this including trolling for a cop stop by driving high end Mercedes with out of state plates along the interstate. Sure enough the cops pulled John Quinones over for the ubiquitous ‘your car was wobbling’ excuse. A 48 hours camera crew was trailing Quinones car and suddenly it wasn’t some hand held camera but a full camera crew present while Quinones questioned to increasingly belligerent state police office about his specific justification for the stop and why he wanted to search a vehicle whose operators had done nothing remotely chargeable. the 48 Hours crusade went further ambushing cops who had bought seized vehicles for a small amount of money and the complaisant magistrates who also seemed to have very fine rides compliments of the seizure program. The publicity and light shown on this scam ended it and some state police resigned to go to work for local parish sheriff’s offices. But the mentality remains ingrained. Public office for private gain and ‘respect my authority’ even if I am an obvious pile of excrement continues to be alive and well here and other places.


19 posted on 08/02/2018 10:47:04 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: DanielRedfoot

There aren’t 57 States, there are 59. Remember, One doesn’t campaign in Alaska or Hawall


I stand corrected:-)


20 posted on 08/02/2018 10:48:34 AM PDT by sevlex
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